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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Shocker99, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. remmett70

    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    This irks the hell out of me. I heard a few guys I served with talking about how they were going to get disability for some stupid reasons. I'd have a really hard time being friends with somebody I knew was gaming the system. My step daughter was on assistance for a while when the father of her daughter wasn't able to pay support because of an accident. While on it she told me how her case officer of whatever they are called told her not to work more than X amount of hours because she would lose benefits.

    Seems like for a long while it was hard to qualify for disability and the "people" got upset so they made it easier and now we end up with people getting it that don't deserve it.
     
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  2. Shocker99

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    Yea I've learned to expect that behavior from those types at the grocery stores. I guess I've just been exposed to a good number of them that I know are scamming the system and getting away with it.


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    I'm just giving the veteran the benefit of the doubt. I don't want those that need/deserve the benefits to be denied them in any way.
     
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    I fully agree. They deserve to be taken care of. But a guy whose asthma got worse while in the navy, never seeing combat who gets 90%, thousands of dollars a month while still being able to work a 40hr/wk state job, and then and a guy who's done 3 tours in Iraq, had multiple surgeries and has metal in his body along with his wife who was ejected from her vehicle after an RPG hit and she can only get 60%??? Something is seriously wrong.


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    I've been fighting the VA since 2008 to have my ankle approved, Dr says I have so much damage that... his words "you're f'd". I spent 7 years in the infantry 2001-2008, and a decent list of legitimate training/combat injuries, but little record to go off. If you spend all your time in the ouchie room, you are not with your men and considered weak. Being a "man" and sucking up the pain is awesome while on active duty, not so much when you get out.
    Really pisses me off to see someone that "heard" a boom and POOF...PTSD. I hate most of the veteran communities, they (many, not all) are no different than the civilian welfare mentality. I did go through a time where I blamed everything else, one day I looked at how I was living and told myself to quit being a "kitty" and live life. Best decision ever.
    I'd love to claim a lot of what I hear is a "disability", but I've sent friends home mangled, and a few dead, and do not feel my injuries can repay the debt owed to those men.
     
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    You are a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Thanks a million for your service and God bless.


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    If you need help please get look into veterans groups to navigate the system with you. Some people get bitter when the system helps someone they deem less worthy. Do we truly know any FACTS about what's really going with others?

    I don't believe just being able to work 40 hours proves anything. It's possible that the disability affects which jobs are even an option which than effects how much money is made.

    I personally know guys with problems that effect the bottom line pay check every day that just by looking at them from a distance you'd never know.

    If you believe it's fraud you can report it and I'll assure you they'll investigate it. You also shouldn't pretend to be friends with those who clearly have lower morale standards than you.


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    Agree totally, and vets aren't the only ones abusing the system civilians are as well. Even as little as handicap parking, anyone can get it just from having a common cold, but yet I work with 80+ individuals that will park on the the end of the lot and walk. It drives me nuts watching the ones that rate it come up short handed while the others walk around like everyone owes them something.


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    I was in during about the same time and besides the experiences you had everything else is spot on. I was a Embassy guard 3 out of 5 years in the Marines so it was a little more cushy than what I could have went through, but everything else you said is spot on. Anybody who spent any time at sick bay and didn't have a arm or leg falling off was looked down upon, you either sucked it up or had a pretty hard time getting rode by everyone for being weak.

    Now fast forward to 2007 when I was in Quantico getting out and while goin through the separation classes they literally told us to right down anything possible to turn in to get the highest disability rating possible. It was absolutely disgusting to be sitting there while the 30 or 40 other people where thumbing through their med records or asking what about this or what about that just so they could get a higher payment. And all the people giving the classes kept sayin was make sure you write down anything no matter how little it might be because we see people all the time years later and are shocked/upset how much more it would of added up to in payments.

    In all honesty I, like someone mentioned earlier said, have very little or any interest in having anything to do with much of the veteran community. There's far too much self entitlement and feeling something is owed to someone for being a veteran. In some cases there is a debt owed but in most there's not for simply doing something you volunteered to do. Perfect example is the DV group that runs around Facebook, if you associate with that group just know, your a dbag and if you were laying on the ground on fire and I had a glass of water I'm drinking the water.

    Sorry if I'm rambling or not making sense, pouring concrete all day in 105 degree heat makes ya loopy.
     
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