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Thoughts on the President's and Boehner's speech?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by MGH_PA, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. Vito

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    Yeah, I know. I love everybody too...except gun hunters...and people from Ohio...and the dude down the street that lights quarter sticks at 2 am. I don't love that guy.
     
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    Right;). Nice back stroke Dave
     
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    Until we have term limits and eliminate life-long pensions for political offices, we will continue to have professional politicians. As long as we have professional politicians, we will have mediocrity. Politics was never supposed to be a profession. You were to serve your time, do what was best for your community, country, etc., and return to your real profession. Our current Sentate, House, and White House is filled with people that have never had to punch a time-clock, never had to meet a payroll, never had to design a business plan, never had to make AND stick to a budget, etc., etc. It is unbelieveable to me that WE have put up with this for so long.
     
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    Worse yet many in Washington failed in business and politics was their fallback. Those that can, do, those that can't go to Washington.
     
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    Basically both sides want to be "right". This is all one big political game. Elections are next year and neither side wants to lose a major political face off that close to an election.
    Personally, I agree with cut, cap and balance to a point...
    The main issue with the Republican plan that people won't agree on is that it is a short term plan. I am ok with this, and here is why: The entitlements need fixed. Plain and simple. The country cannot sustain running a debt and that has to be addressed. The main contributor is entitlement spending. This is no simple fix. It won't happen in a couple days.
    The main issue with the democratic plan is taxes and entitlements. They do not touch entitlements and they want to raise taxes on the "wealthy". Though it is a great theory that we take from the wealthy and give to the poor, it doesn't work in practice, and quite honestly, it's not fair. If you've spent years in school, worked your tail off, 80 hours a week, risked your financial life, why should you pay for someone who doesn't want to work. Also, the problem with taxing the "wealthy" and why I use quotations; small businesses are categorized at wealthy individuals. Therefore, you're taxing small business. The majority of Americans are in small business and that is where you need job growth. Why would you tax people who are trying to create jobs, you're just shooting yourself in the foot.
    I guess it's a very conservative view. I wouldn't consider myself republican or democrat, conservative, or liberal... but more educated and logical. The problem isn't income, it's spending. I honestly believe both parties are doing what they feel is right, however, just by looking at the problem and solutions brought forth, the Republican plan is better.
     
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    Nice post!
     
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    The only problem I see with term limits are the politicians who really are very good. In Indiana for example, we're loosing Mitch Daniels becaue he's term limited. Indiana has thrived, we have a $1.1 billion surplus in funds and unemployment is a full percent under the national average.
    However, I'm still very torn because, well, you're right. We have some absolutely terrible politicians and that will decrease their damage.
    Even if we can't get term limits, they should still live by the rules they set forth. They should have health insurance just like the rest of us. They should be taxed just like the rest of us. I agree, if they had some of these real world fears from laws they are debating on, it might greatly change the outcome.
     
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    The mack-penny plan!!!
     

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