Thoughts on the Nocturnal Helios Lighted Vane...

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  1. semper

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    I just saw this and I gotta tell ya I'm kind of interested. If I apply spin to footballs or bullets you get a better trajectory and a more reliable shot. I don't care for the look, but I might like the results. I'd like some opinions from the more experienced guys.
     
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    I was looking into them also. They look kinda wierd and heavy but i wanted to test them out.
     
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    Be interesting to see some independent reviews


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  4. semper

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    yeah a friend of mine pointed out the weight issues also.
     
  5. semper

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    His exact comments were:

    " they do what they say they will do yes, but spin doesnt always equal a good thing. it will slow your arrows down (not a good thing if you wanna shoot far), plus those things are 54 grains. while normally fletchings (which shoot fine, ask bret about his 60yard robin hood) are only 6 gr a piece so 18 grains, plus a 20 grain nockturnal. soo an additional 16 grain on the back, could be a big deal for your F.O.C., poor F.O.C. = poor arrow flight" and "Also that wind tunnel goes only to 240fps.. what happens when i shoot that vane out of my bow at 300+? that is ALOT of spin i would imagine. I want to actually see them shot out of a bow before i would get them.. unless it was a good deal, then i would try them to see how it goes. i'm just not sold on them yet."
     
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    These look pretty cool
     
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    sorry for the necro posting, but anyone really tested these yet? I figured Ike @ ikesoutdoors.com would have if anyone has, but I didn't see anything over there.

    Aside from the FOC concerns, I also worry about how much torque the spin creates on a larger fixed blade BH, and how much energy would be lost when the spin comes to a dead stop on an animal.

    I 'm also curious how the higher RPMs would effect the "dynamic spin control" aspects of Carbon Express Maximas...I wonder if the high RPM + the Red Zone flex area = arrow flying downrange like a wet noodle.
     
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    hmmmmm
     
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    For a person that has a interest in things that fly I would think you would have better feedback then that! ;)
     
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    Doing some research
     
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    I just got some from bass pro. I tested them yesterday they fly like horrible. They fetching gets in the way with your anchor point especially if you use a kisser button. I was only shooting at 20 yard and you can see the difference in flight and penetration. Overall wouldn't recommend them I took the vanes off and just kept the lighted nock
     
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    This is why I didnt try them. I have a beard and stach and fletch my own and keep my vanes 1 1/2 inches from the nock to avoid facial hair so these will not work for me. Most premade arrows have the fletching way to close to the nock for me to use.
     
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    I've been waiting on a video showing some one shooting them. For all the guy's and girl's that fletch their own arrows, why do you leave a space between the vane and the nock? I know why, but what if you changed that space what would happen?
     
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    When I first saw them I said pair them up with some toxic broad heads. Drill a hole right thru. But now reviews about them to are bad.
     
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    Any more field reports?
     

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