thoughts on a problem

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  1. oldnotdead

    oldnotdead Legendary Woodsman

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    Ok I mentioned I found a dead fawn carcass this spring in main plot area. Then the other day saw an enlarged yote den opening on the edge of said plot in front of blind. Today we walked by again and the hole has been made bigger with dirt and rocks thrown out over the snow. I found 3 openings to it and the largest is the size of a big couch pillow way bigger than a basket ball. This got me to thinking ..last few years that plot has really gone down hill for deer sightings in and out of season. This is where all my chestnuts,peach , Apple, and several mature oak are...the coyote have to go. I really am not into shooting them ..the whole night or early /late day in sub zero temps.
    That said as I looked at openings It popped into my head, seriously stuffing entrances during the day with a bale of straw then lighting each entrance. I would think the smoke would take them out pretty quick and if not I would be at the ready with the rifle or shot gun.
    So what are your thought?
     
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    Oh may need to get rid of some fox too....lost one of the rabbits I'd planned on hunting....1-30-22. I found the blood at his den opening and followed the blood past the camera

    1-30-22 lost a bunny.JPG
     
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    May be impossible logistically, but I would think drowning them out would be a better option, dump large tanks of water into each of the openings at same time. Much like smoking, but without the smoke or gunshots. Works for prairie dogs. Just dump in enough water fast enough that they can't get out it.
     
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    ^^^ Would require a tanker truck from the fire department.

    I would put a camera on the den to make sure they are coyotes then trap them.
     
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    Nope kill them with fire. a 70% diesel 30 % gas dumps it down the holes and light it I would advise that you have a 12 gauge ready to shoot anything coming out. Stack pallets over the holes and let it rip.
     
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    Buckshot, beer and fire problem solved in 1 night.
     
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    Most effective way would to trap them. The traps work 24 hours a day, so you don't have to. Just check them once a day.

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    I'm not sure why a tanker truck? There is a foot of snow on the ground.
     
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    220 Conibear or snares if legal ... .... smoke would be hard as it rises .. cyanide capsules in fresh meat if legal ... a good 22-250 is my preferred choice, 55 gr ballistic tip ...
     
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    Son and hubby are trapping certified though hubby told me son and friend yote hunt so may have them come down.
     
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    My point was that you could not carry enough water to fill a den of that size with enough water to drown them. It would take hundreds of gallons of water to fill the den.

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    Ditto this.
     
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    Ok I get that. Had a neighbor try to literally dig up a den with as backhoe. It was massive and went on for yards .
    Though I was thinking of am on e not wasterstuffing with straw blocking with something, pallets was a good idea and smoking. That said I'll just h ave son come down it's a rather active den.
     
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    Traps would likely be your best bet. I also second putting a camera on each opening.
     
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    Still voting for fire. I will never forget sitting out in the pasture burning a big pile that had been there a while. Had been sitting there for a while with the dogs drinking beers when a fox hopped out of the pile his tail was smoking at the end. The dogs and I looked at each other shocked for a second then the dogs went nuts, the fox had a head start.
     
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    Pictured that in my head and just had to laugh.

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    OMG...Christmas vacation...just imagine that running through your house then hiding under a bed or sofa
     
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    If son and friend want to shoot them, have them sit with shotguns and smoke them out. Block one of the openings, apply smoke to a 2nd opening (once enough smoke, block it too), leave 3rd open where they'll come out at. We used to smoke out ground squirrels, simply used those 4th of July smoke bombs.
    Sota's method would be fastest, quickest, most efficient at for sure getting rid of them. Definitely not something to advertise, imagine the squirrel squeezers hearing about something like that being done.
    Whatever you do, do it soon. February kicks off their mating season.
     
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    I'm thinking they can just set up in the blind 40 yrds away...Though not for a while...we have another 13 " of snow arriving tonight through Friday. Though I imagine they'll be trying to dig out right after that.
     

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