During the 1970's there was a huge debate about how the earth was cooling and we were going to enter the next Ice Age. Gloom and doom and destruction was predicted in short order by the very same scientists/snake oil salesmen/organizations as today. The cause was the burning of fossil fuels and more specifically coal. During the 80's we had another huge debate about acid rain and how all the forests were going to be destroyed, more death and mayhem was predicted. Again the same groups were proponents and again the culprit was fossil fuels and more specifically coal. During the 90's the global warming debate become the soup de jour and continued as a hot topic (pun intended) for the better part of 20 years. The same groups vilifying the same people. In each and every one of these supposed dire situations were imminent death and destruction was to occur, big surprise, nothing happened that even remotely resembled their predictions. We did not enter the next Ice Age, acid rain did not destroy the forests, the earth did not continue to warm and as a matter of fact has cooled to pre warming temps. So now the narrative has changed yet again to "climate change" as a catch all for anything that occurs and obviously it must be man made and obviously it must be fossil fuels and coal's fault. Jeez, give me a break. These people have never been right about any of their predictions yet as a society we continue to drink the cool-aid at the expense of billions and billions of dollars.
Yes, next people will say we made weapons that could blow it up 26 times Humans have wiped out entire species, Humans have wiped out entire cultures, we know how to **** **** up.
If this turns into a nukes weapons thread, I'll have to jump in since it's my actual weapon system, which most people only pretend to know about. Lol at least this place is hardly boring lol
While I agree that we have the capacity through weapons of mass destruction to destroy ourselves which is a fact, and I agree that there have been instances of genocide historically recorded which is a fact, neither of those facts are germaine to the argument about the climate change debate. Relating genocide to climate change is like saying baldness causes ingrown toenails. The facts are the doomsayers have been completely wrong about each and every one of their predictions and when they are wrong they just change the narrative to fit their cause. Batting .000 gets you on the bench and fired but they are never held accountable, yet as a society we are spending billions to chase a fictitious hypothesis.
Shame, lol. That's just what we have done and can do. Never under estimate the stupidity of humanity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
the earth has had no discernible warming in the last 100+ years in fact many say we are entering a mini ice age, but that does not stop the global warming sheeple from try to push their agenda.... question again....... what will much of the country do for power when they shut all the coal fired plants down that are slated to be close since it is much too expensive to comply with the rediculous regs handed down by the EPA?
What we always do, the Energy companies will spend a lot of cash getting folks elected to change the laws, and once they do that the environmentalist will spend huge money to get folks elected to change the laws in their favor. Then the circle of crazy starts again. I am not comparing "global" warming to anything, what I am saying is in the past we humans have made blanket statements that have not turned out so hot.
Germ I think the biggest issue against global warming is the way the information is manipulated. We have a hot summer and it is reported that it is the hottest summer in so many years, how it ranks in the top 10 hottest years and how it proves global warming is here to stay. Then we get a cold, snowy winter that ranks in the top 10 and the global warmers tell us not to confuse climate with weather.
The biggest problem I have with all of this is how everyone freaking politicizes the issue. And how global warming deniers seem to not even think the issue should be studied or researched. It's ok to be skeptic. I'm a skeptic of global warming. We are supposed to question things. But to just flat out deny anything and everything because you think that person is trying to push some political ideology onto you is quite ignorant.
A good read. "All data points to the sun as the primary source of short-term and long term climate change on Earth. While volcanic eruptions such as the current one in Iceland can affect short-term weather conditions over a region, planetary climate is governed by solar activity-or lack of it. The first inkling that something had changed with the sun was the recognition of an abnormal sunspot cycle. Then, astronomers noted that all the planets were heating up-even little Pluto on the outskirts of our solar system. While climatologists on Earth massaged the data to make it seem like man-made global warming was real, major climate changes were occurring on Mars. During the peak of the global warming debate, the prestigious National Geographic Magazine published a ground-breaking article by Habibullo Abdussamatov in 2007, "Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says." Habibullo Abdussamatov, an astrophysicist and head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, stated that solar activity caused the climate change on Earth and that observations of Mars revealed the shrinking of the carbon dioxide ice caps at the Martian South Polar region. In that article, Abdussamatov explained: "The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars." The scientist, accurate in past predictions, has recently pronounced his belief that Earth will enter a "little Ice Age: as early as 2014 and lasting as long as two centuries. The last one occurred between 1650 and 1850 and accounted for many crop failures, outbreaks of famines and mass migrations. Abdussamatov contends, "Long-term variations in the amount of solar energy reaching the Earth are the main and principal reasons driving and defining the whole mechanism of climatic changes from the global warmings to the Little Ice Ages to the big glacial periods." If his theory is true—and the International Space Station will be testing parts of it over the next six years—then use of hydrocarbon technology should not be diminished, but increased. Only through technological applications in growing economies would humanity be able to "to maintain economic growth in order to adapt to the upcoming new Little Ice Age in the middle of the 21st century," he asserts. Whereas global warming would be a good thing (despite the gloomy forecasts) a mini-Ice Age could be disastrous: growing seasons would be shortened, more energy must be extended to stay warm, and food shortages may lead to breakouts of regional warfare. "Observations of the sun show that as for the increase in temperature, carbon dioxide is not guilty." The Russian scientist is concerned about this move towards an extending cooling period. He states, "and as for what lies ahead in the coming decades, it is not catastrophic warming, but a global, and very prolonged temperature drop." If Abdussamatov's calculation is true—and the observable and historical data seem to support it—then the countries of the world are moving exactly in the wrong direction to deal with an impending Ice Age. Al Gore notwithstanding, global cooling is much more dangerous than global warming. "The observed global warming of the climate of the Earth is not caused by the anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gasses, but by extraordinarily high solar intensity that extended over virtually the entire past century," Abdussamatov wrote. "Future decrease in global temperature will occur even if anthropogenic ejection of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere rises to record levels. "Over the past decade," Abdussamatov warns, "global temperature on the Earth has not increased; global warming has ceased, and already there are signs of the future deep temperature drop." Why Earth may be entering a new Ice Age ...
NOAA making "adjustments" to temperature reading does not add to the credibility. Then let's consider the global warming prophet Al Gore, he flies around the world telling us the sky is falling and what causes it, all the while he is the largest private consumer of electricity in his home state.
