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The Zimmerman trial

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Hooker, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    In that situation you should call the police. However, nothing prevents you from waving the guy over and verbally confronting him. In fact, if you did wave him over in attempts to verbally confront him, you would have not done anything illegal.
     
  2. Ben/PA

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    Been there done that, called in a drunk driver. Did not try to confront him. Police are trained, paid, and responsible for doing that.

    Martin starts attacking someone,I'll give Zimmerman a medal for putting a cap in him. He was not immediately threatening anyone, thus no unqualified, untrained confrontation needed.
     
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    Understood. But I would not seek protection under "self defense" for interaction that I sought. All I'm saying.
     
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    He sought to inquire about a suspicious person. That does not mean he sought a life or death situation.
     
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    He calls you, the cop dispatcher, says I'm following a suspicious person and I'm going to confront him. What's your response?
     
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    No ill mannered intent here Brett, just curious
     
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    I just have a hard time giving a pass on the taking of a life when it could have been avoided.

    Different feelings if he's on Zimmermans lawn at time of confrontation
     
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    Thus is where a civil lawsuit may come into play but at this point, I do not see a criminal act.

    But I'm open to seeing what the evidence shows. If zimmerman didn't threaten or attack martin, then martin attacked him unprivoked and was killed in self defense. Or atleast there is enough reasonable doubt that one can not convict.

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    I guess I'm different. If a hooded guy is walking through my neighborhood late at night I'm asking him wth he is doing. Black, Indian, Albino... No difference to me, a simple conversation never hurt anyone.

    If said hooded guy is bashin my skull onto the concrete for confronting him, I'm shooting his *** off me. No questions about it.

    I don't know all the facts of the case, in fact no one does.... But until they can prove it didn't happen that way, I don't see any criminal charges sticking.

    If the courts were asking my opinion, it seems Zimmerman was overzealous in his neighborhood watch duty. It also seems Martin was far from innocent in attacking him for confronting him. Why beat the hell out of someone for asking what you are doing, or saying anything to you for that matter. Just tell him you are on your way home and didnt mean to disturb anyone. Martin was lookin for trouble by fighting just as much as Zimmerman was by causing a confrontation (using words, lol)
     
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    I've only been reading notes on the case so far haven't been able to follow as close as I'd like. Im curious if they said specifically Zimmerman confronted him, or if he was only tailing Martin so he could direct the police when they got there. Does anyone know for sure?
     
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    Sorry it took me so long to write back to you. I just got home from work. I would tell the guy to NOT confront the suspicious person. That being said, he is a free citizen and can do as he pleases.
     
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    Well it is called a neighborhood WATCH for a reason.

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    Definitely would have been avoided if T just calmly answered Z as to what he was doing there instead of going into attack mode. Z was well within his rights and his actions were in no way out of the ordinary for a neighborhood known to have crime issues. His only intention seemed to be to find out what T was doing there. T decided to act like a thug and paid the ultimate price.
     
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    Sad thing is, there are likely people on the jury that have the same lack of intelligence.
     
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    A neighborhood watch leader packing heat to interrogate someone seems out of the ordinary to me.

    T did act like a thug. Z acted like an over confident punk with a gun, both paid for it.
     
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    even if crime was prevalent in your neighborhood? and do you not understand what a neighborhood watch is?
     
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    Explain it to me Hook. I'm pretty sure it's not meant to be armed and offensive oriented.
     
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    Organization and History

    A neighborhood watch may be organized as its own group or may simply be a function of a neighborhood association or other community association.

    Neighborhood watches are not vigilante organizations. When suspecting criminal activities, members are encouraged to contact authorities and not to intervene.
     
  20. Hooker

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    I'm not arguing that Zimmerman was probably a bit overzealous in his duties. But he did have every right to do what he did.
     

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