not saying she isn't right, I just don't think it has any relevance within the case. And if I see some kid in my neighborhood walking through yards in the middle of the night, I'm probably going to approach him as well and ask him what he is doing.
How so Gary? I would assume you would approach someone that was hanging out in front of your home. You have a wife and kids to protect and you have every right to ask that individual what they are up to. How is this so different? Not picking at you, just trying to understand your thinking here.
No...but carrying a weapon comes with responsibility...u have to approach situations differently when you have the power to end someones life in your pocket Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
I doubt Zimmerman approached Trayvon with the intention of killing him. I'm sure that all changed once Trayvon was on top of him though.
Should you have been held accountable when you tackled those guys. Proof. There is no proof Zimmerman attacked or provoked martin. Should he have stayed where he was, maybe but his actions were not criminal and he shouldn't have got beaten for it. Atleast as far as we know. Unless more evidence is presented, I see reasonable doubt. sent from my samsung note 2
Another prosecution witness just confirmed that the back of Zimmerman's jacket and jeans were wet and had grass stains. WTF is the prosecution doing?
Are you saying that if I were on a neighborhood watch shift and I see you, someone I don't recognize, walking through my neighborhood, that I have no right to approach you and ask you what you're doing? Granted, that wouldn't be what I would do, but would I not have that right?
He could have avoided pulling the trigger if he never left the house. But, he was trying to help his neighborhood be a safe place to live and raise a family. You can not assume that he ever had any intentions of using the gun. There had recently been crimes in that very neighborhood. Z was doing exactly what many of his neighbors wanted him to do.
I can see and understand what ure saying... I just know that because I carry a weapon I would keep my eye out at a distance until he did something to put another life in danger or the authorities got there to investigate the situation....I dont believe in trying to play hero when theres a loaded gun on my hip Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Asking a stranger what they are doing walking through yards at night is in no way playing hero. I would hope that every neighbor I have would do exactly that. Gun or not.
There's no doubt that this could have and should have ended differently for everyone, but I would hope everyone would be suspicious of strangers walking down their street in the middle of the night. Should he be out playing vigilante, probably not but we also have to realize that the "real police" are far and few between and I'm sure they probably are too busy to be out patrolling the neighborhoods because the crime levels out already out of control in these large cities. Obviously the police are not able to do a good enough job, as Sanford Florida is only safer than 4% of US cities. I would be paranoid if I lived there too. http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/sanford/crime/#data
Kids walk down my street all the time and I don't bother them until they put mustard on my car, he was not hanging out in front of anyone's home, Mr. Martin was walking down the street. Zimmerman Followed him, made Mr. Martin suspicious of Zimmerman, does Mr. Martin know Mr Zimmerman intent was? I don't know, does anyone? Issue is we all know what Zimmerman intent was, it was not evil or malice. In fact it's something we might all do in front of our homes or in our neighborhood. My question and thought process is this, We don't know what was said between the two, Mr Martin was weary of Mr. Zimmerman following him. This put Mr. Martin is defense mode, so he took action to defend himself IMO. Is it wrong to defend yourself from someone you perceived as a threat? Zimmerman is not going to take the stand, so we don't know how it went down or what was said. What we down know is Mr. Martin was aware he was being followed, and Mr. Zimmerman was following him and got out of his car to confront him.
Witnesses have testified to seeing Trayvon walking through yards, not just the street/sidewalk. And this was at night. This is what we do not know. Who started the physical altercation. If Trayvon did hide in the bushes and ambush Zimmerman, then that is going beyond defending oneself in the situation. You cannot physically assault someone just because you think they are following you.
Unless Z made some comment that he was about to beat the crap out of T, or shoot him, T had no right or reason to jump him if that is in fact what happened. I don't even know that Z made any poor decisions at this point. T likely had every opportunity to remain calm and simply speak with Z.
Totally agree, again we don't know what happen. He was following him and got out the car, we do know that fact.
Did he get out of the car to "confront" Martin or was he forced to leave his car in order to keep visual contact with Mr. Martin who was admittedly trying to evade a "crazyassed cracker" ? I would like to see an over view map of the travel both men took leading up to the assault and resulting shooting.
