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Discussion in 'Traditional Archery' started by Jake/PA, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    That's a really good bow. What weight are you looking for?


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    45#-50#...I want to keep it nice and smooth.
     
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    I can't believe how quick I started to shoot pretty well. I'm enjoying shooting this recurve much more than a compound. I'm seriously contemplating going 100% trad. It may not work out very well for me, but I think that I would enjoy the hunt Even more than I already do.
     
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    Still reading up and shopping around for some different bows, but can someone explain the pros/cons of ILF takedowns vs bolt takedowns?
     
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    I'm having just the opposite reaction. I just can't seem to get into the recurve and prefer to shoot my compound.

    I know it's just a preference and a feel thing but I'm kinda disappointed. Makes me wonder if I'm missing something or doing something wrong.

    I may have to start my own thread on the subject.
     
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    Where you two guys located from N.W. Missouri?
     
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    It is a preference thing to be sure.

    QUESTIONS I NEED TO ASK:
    1) What is your past experience with traditional tackle?
    2) What weight bow are you shooting? i.e. Are you over bowed?
    3) Are you sure your bow and arrows are tuned correctly?
    4) What are your expectations in shooting traditional tackle?
    5) How often do you practice using traditional tackle?
    6) At what distance do you practice? What kind of groups do you get?
    7) Are you trying to shoot instinctive or gap shooting?


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    http://www.arrowtrademagazine.com/articles_pdfs/nov_11/Nov2011-UnderstandingILFLimbs.pdf

    ILF probably has more interchangeable options. Different risers and limbs can be switched out. Bolt TD's are for all intents and purposes mostly unique to individual manufactures but not always.

    EXAMPLES:
    ILF-you could use Samick limbs on a Hoyt riser and vice versa. The same applies to DAS and Axiom. They are all interchangeable.
    BOLT ON:
    You could not use Pittsley limbs on a Chastain riser or Samick, etc.

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    QUESTIONS I NEED TO ASK:
    1) What is your past experience with traditional tackle?
    None to speak of, unless you want to count the fiberglass bow that shot suction cup arrow when I was little. Lol

    2) What weight bow are you shooting? i.e. Are you over bowed?
    My bow is rated at 34# which has it in the 40# (probably a little less) at my draw length.

    3) Are you sure your bow and arrows are tuned correctly?
    I know they are not. I've been playing around with my 400 spine/29 inch/blazer vane carbon arrows that I use with the compound. Shooting from an elevated rest.

    4) What are your expectations in shooting traditional tackle? My first level of expectations or first goal is to reliably hit paper plate sized groups at 20 yards. I won't take it hunting until that minimum is met.

    5) How often do you practice using traditional tackle?
    It varies. My origional plan was to switch totally to the recurve and practice almost every day. I know I'm handicapping myself without propper arrows but at the same time I don't want to go to the work/expense to tune the setup only to still prefer the compound. It's a real catch 22.

    6) At what distance do you practice? What kind of groups do you get?
    Right now I can get paper plate size group at about 10 yards. Shooting in my basement.

    7) Are you trying to shoot instinctive or gap shooting?
    Instinctive. It's the only option I have because the arrows I'm using are too short.

    Those are all great questions. Leaves me wondering if a proper set of arrows shooting off the shelf would make all the difference
     
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    1) doesn't count...lol
    2) you are shooting a good weight for someone just beginning.
    3) your arrows are WAY wrong. At maximum be shooting 500's and 600 wouldn't be out of the question. Shooting vanes from an elevated rest can work just fine if set up right.
    4) your goal is good. Form in traditional is probably more important than compounds.
    5) you'll never achieve satisfaction if you have a poor set up and can't hit what you're aiming at. Even with a proper set up constant practice is needed. This is to build muscle memory and hand/eye coordination.
    6) 10 yards is not bad until you start grouping arrows really close. Then you can back up to 15 yards. 5 yards can make a world of difference.
    7) do you know the difference between instinctive, gap, string walking, etc?

    I prefer shooting feathers off a shelf myself. There are other good option also such as feather rests.

    Here is everything you'll need to get started right.
    ACS Bows at A&H Archery. The traditional ACS longbow.


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