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The sinking ship that is the Cleveland Cavaliers...

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Siman/OH, Jun 7, 2016.

  1. Sota

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    He threw and hit a fan in the stands with his spit covered mouth piece, then again steph seems to not understand the the mouth guard belongs in your mouth.
     
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    For those that say the NBA is fixed, and they watched the first quarter you would have to agree that GS was in on the fix, the shooting % was a fraction of what it normally is, the % came up in other quarters but the hole they dug in the first quarter pretty much made it an impossible uphill battle to win on the road.
     
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    ^THIS! When I first thought about things being fixed but went back and looked at it, the players themselves would have had to be in on the fix because the refs don't control missed and made shots. So it would be stupid to say it's fixed (which I admit was stupid for me to think). Besides Green getting away with kicking OKC's Adams in the nuts and not getting suspended in the OKC series, nothing the refs have done have really mattered. The games have basically been won by double digit points by each side.
     
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    He apologized and shook hands with the fan that he accidently hit. A lot of players would not have bothered doing that. Was it the wrong thing for him to do? Yes. Was it something worth making a big deal over? I don't think so. The guy got totally hosed by the refs in game 6 of the finals. Emotions run high in that situation.
     
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    I have no idea on the actual rules on what should/should not happen in that situation... But there is no excuse for what Steph did. "It was a mouth guard, no big deal." The big deal is that he hit a fan with it. Had that fan been a kid and that guard hits him in the eye or something... Could play the "what if" game all day long, but what he did was simply uncalled for.
     
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    Sure, props for realizing he was wrong and apologizing but if just about any of us did that at our workplace we'd be fired. Saying sorry isn't a magic rewind button.

    In regards to the fouls, I only saw one that was questionable which was the charge he took from LeBron, BUT, the call was evened out later in the game when LeBron was incorrectly called for the same thing, ironically against Curry. The reach in fouls and hitting LeBron when he's getting a rebound, as petty as they may seem, are all still fouls. Curry fouling out hardly had any influence on the result of the game as they had no defense.
     
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    Your a Cavs fan. I don't think your opinion is going to be very objective regarding the calls. I don't care who wins. I agree the Cavs were going to win either way.
     
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    After looking at video of the mouth guard incident I'm starting to agree more with you guys on that. It looks worse that I first thought.
     
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    Looked like something out of the WWE to me; he was giggling and smirking about the whole time like it didn't matter.
     
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    I think part of it is the over hype of him in the media and with his kids and his wife on twitter, over exposed.
     
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    He's Steph Curry... Nothing bad can happen to him.
     
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    Yes, I'm a bit biased. As long as there's no bad calls in favor of the Cavs that directly result in the Cavs winning so I don't have to hear "they get an asterisk next to their championship" or something along those lines, I can live with it. I managed to get over Kyrie getting called for dribbling the ball out of bounds (when he clearly didn't) and I have been able to get over the 2-3 no calls per game that LeBron doesn't get free throws for, so I think it all evens out. Especially since each game has basically been decided by double digit points either way. I just want a Cleveland championship.
     
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    I will take Golden State by 10 Sunday


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    What a stretch considering the home team and the margin of victory in each of the finals games, I would set the spread at 12 1/2 points.
     
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    Poor guy
     

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    Even if he wins this one, Lebrons success early in his career with those dumpster fire Cavs rosters is still the most impressive thing to me personally. MJ lost more games than he won until Pippen came along. Kobe without Pau or Shaq again had a large margin for losing over winning.... Lebron on the Cavs before leaving to win with DWade actually made the finals and won the majority of his games. That roster without him would have struggled in the NCAA tourney lol


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    The Bulls won 52 games during Pippens rookie year. Scottie chipped in 8 pts per game. Jordan averaged 35.

    But, yeah I agree Lebron's early years with the Cavs were impressive considering the weak cast around him.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Lebron took a team with little to no talent to the finals, but let the record show it was in the Eastern Conference, the East has been measurably weaker than the western conference for years.
     

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