Saw a good bumper sticker today, said my kids are sassholes, my kids in their late 20's are sassholes, but respectful.
I make shirts as a side gig. One of my groups had "Mommy and Me" shirts. Mom's was "My kids are sassholes" - the kid shirt said "sasshole" The got so much back lash from that. I thought it was hilarious.
Finally happened, all the rain this last one broke the dam sorta speak. Roads washed, out parking lots flooded, evacuations in town's, holy cow farms under water, accidents. It was a wild trip out and about today and more rain on the way. Ground was finally too saturated. I sat watching TV listening to trees falling last night and just now. Also noticed trees dropping leaves and changing color already.
I vow tomorrow when Landon gets to the lake, I will not look at my email will not be available for calls will not answer texts. I will be Biden like at Camp Sota doesn't matter what is happening in the world. I need to be able to take a day to just be left alone it has been a turbulent year with my parents health issues, my sister and business partners death and employees that feel the need to be micro managed and employees that have not been held accountable for years. The questions I ask are not hurtful if you answer honestly.
Who WANTS to be micromanaged?? Got a "big wig" here that loves to look over your shoulder and micromanage. Luckily, I don't report to him so I can just smile and tell him to get out of my cube. Smh. Only 26 more months
Question for the rest of you on whether I am being unreasonable in my thinking. I have been employed at my current job for over 17 years. I'm training people, and really doesn't matter if I am training them or not, who have no experience at all but are being hired at the same pay scale or a dollar less than what I am making. I am ready to put in my 2 week notice, I am that disgusted by it. Are we really at that time where everyone makes the same regardless?
My question to you, if your financially secure enough and confident enough in finding new employment to consider a 2week notice, why not go in and lay your complaint in front of your higher ups. What's the worst that can happen ,they let you go and you qualify for unemployment benefits while you reevaluate your goals and look for something better? To your question...No
Sounds like poor management. It is certainly true employers are having to bring in entry level individuals at much higher starting wages these days in an effort to both attract and retain. However that adjustment needs to be reflected throughout the entire pay scale / structure. Problem is... that is the proposal that is often the hardest / takes the longest, to get the approval on. I am living this struggle from the other side of your dilemma. You need to 100% address your concerns with your manager. I would be VERY surprised if they do not make things right for you. If they don't...... bail. LOTS of opportunity right now.
We had that for years. 10 year vets making less than new hires. I ain't kidding you. Turnover was so bad they finally fixed it. People suck.
Address your concern, get it off your chest, if you do not get the response you want, move on if the job market is good for you right now.
@cls74 Many companies have pay scales that have a couple work-up wage levels and then a "full wage" level once you are fully trained and performing the job at expectations. So a 1 year employee will likely make the same as a 10 year employee in the same job once they are fully trained. I bring this up because I want to point out that making a higher wage all of the time over someone else with less years is probably not going to go over well. Really depends on the type of business, but a training wage is a very reasonable expectation. I've worked for a couple different places (manufacturing line type jobs) that offered a "training wage" that got added on to an employee's hours. They had a time clock system and anyone that was training had their hours tagged in the time clock system with "training". It automatically tacked on an extra buck an hour over their normal wage. Whatever pay method your employer uses, perhaps this is something you could suggest to them. I think any decent supervisor/manager wouldn't want to lose an experienced 17 year employee, and especially one that they trust to train the new folks. Management usually chooses someone to train because they are a solid performer, have good communication skills, performs the job the way they want everyone to do it, and has patience. A valuable employee whether they train or not! I'd certainly have a calm discussion with management about it. Keep "threats" of leaving out of the discussion, at least the first one anyway. If other coworkers are also training talk with them first. I'm sure you aren't the only one that feels the way you do. Several of you approaching management about this would get some serious attention I'd think. Training definitely adds extra work and responsibility on you and you're far from alone in thinking some extra compensation is deserved for it.
Being a business manager and handling HR - I'd rather you come to me to discuss civilly then just to put in a two week notice off the bat. One, a lot of the time HR isn't fully aware of what is discussed when it comes to jobs/duties as we usually are not included in that process. Also, we usually don't compare wages - just go off of what we are told - so may be honestly oblivious to the situation. Granted, my line of work is difficult to compare with as we have a starting wage and that's pretty much it. We're nonprofit and controlled by a board of representatives. So we don't get much say, as a manager, anyways. Go in with a clear head and simply ask for a meeting in regards to your position. If it isn't resolved, it truly is an employees job market out there right now, and you can then make that decision.
I completely understand that and I don't expect to make more than someone who has only been there 4 years to my 17, especially if their skill set is equal, by all means pay them accordingly. My scenario is not that. I am speaking to people with zero mechanical ability, absolutely no clue what a CNC machine is, how it operates etc starting out near or equal to my pay rate that took me 17 years to get to. New hires are required to apply through a temporary employment agency. Once they have worked 720 hours, does not include OT hours, they are then assessed and eligible to be directly hired by the company. In my particular case, the guy I was training(moreso sitting with for 2 days as they thought I was off the whole week and covered my shifts) for the past 2 days was just hired on yesterday. He got a raise that put him $1.50 behind me. He will get another in 30 days and another in 90 days. So in 3 months he'll likely be about, or equal to me in pay and nowhere capable of performing his job. He has zero capability to set up a machine, doesn't understand how to read a program, doesn't understand machine zero vs program zero and has no willingness to learn. He can handwheel a tool down to the part, but clueless when it comes to actually setting the tool geometries. He cannot run without a trainer assisting him. He can push buttons and half assed read gauges. When I'd try to explain it to him in layman's terms, he'd either say I know or get frustrated thinking I was condescending him or something. This is not limited to just one person, there are multiple fitting the same description and more being brought in weekly as the workload is steadily busy. Just pisses me off that I worked my way up to where I am only to have one blabber out what they make and nowhere near capable. I've never told anyone what I make and have never asked anyone the same, as this is what that leads to
