I'm all for Constitutional Carry and more and more states are going this route, SD being the latest. Here in IL we must purchase a FOID(Firearms Owner I.D.) card, which per state law must be issued within 90 days of receipt by the IL State Police. This being IL they sit on them as long as possible because there is no penalty for them passing the mandated timeline. It can take nearly 6 months in some instances which until recently would turn law abiding gun owners into unlawful possessors of firearms. They do not allow early renewals so you were in violation anywhere from 10-20 days after submitting. They recently passed an amendment that addressed this. We go through a background check every day of the year. I am scared to think what is going to be passed this year and signed into law. Right now they have filed a plethora of bills. One cent tax per bullet on ammunition sales, scary rifle ban that would also ban some handguns amd shotguns, non toxic projectiles for all ammunition, starting in 2020 all ammunution bought, sold, transferred or possessed must be individually serialized amd probably a few others I'm forgetting. Some of those don't stand a snowballs chance in hell at passing, but we have Bloombergs people, Mom's Demand Action, Gifford's group and a slew of other anti gunners throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. A guaranteed right put through the ringer year after year. I'm hoping that the NY case to be heard by SCOTUS this fall is a sign they are ready to take on some 2A cases in the near future and restore the rights being infringed on.
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2A is very clear- "...shall not be infringed" yet somehow no other constitutional right requires training or fees paid to the state to exert. In fact, SCOTUS has expressly slapped down voting taxes as being unconstitutional; so how the heck is there a tax/fee to express your 2A right? The right to Self defense is both a human right and a civil right; whereas the right to vote is only a civil right. Makes no sense. Adult Citizens (so long as they're not adjudicated felons, domestic abusers, or mental) should be allowed the right to defense of self and property without any infringement at all. So, I'm all for Constitutional Carry in regards to Open Carry. But I am also OK with Concealed Carry being subject to licensing, training requirements, additional background checks, etc. Not big on it but I can kind of/sort of understand the logic. (Michigan has this system, I believe? Can a Michigander confirm?) However, I am also for a mandate on public schools to institute basic firearms training, safety, and basic marksmanship (with option to opt-out.) Every public high school should at least offer it.
I do not believe that just any idiot should be allowed to carry a gun or even own a gun. I know it is a slippery slope and I believe in the constitution but we all know somebody that has zero business owning a gun.
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I can agree with that, but it is a constitutional right given to everyone. I am all for common sense restriction of a right on an individual basis. To do that, that individual must be given due process in order to strip him/her of his/her right. Be it mentally unfit or deemed a dangerous person. I am and always will be against a blanket law that strips a group of individuals of their right without due process as a "feel good" measure because "we have to do something". I don't have a problem with age restriction, however if you are going to set that age at 21, then you should also change the selective service age to 21, the age to vote to 21 and the age of becoming a legal adult as well. Might not be a bad thing considering todays youth. Here in IL, you cannot get a FOID card without parental/guardian permission until you are 21. You can get one at any age with such permission, but must be 18 to purchase long guns or 21 to purchase handguns.
Tons of people own guns here in VA. And of out of all those people, very few deaths can be attributed to irresponsible gun ownership. Both in the hunting realms and every day. I'm not talking about someone who gets crazy angry or is on drugs when they kill someone with a gun...they would find a way to kill someone regardless of weapon available. However, hundreds of deaths can be attributed to car ownership. And most of the time the state trains kids to drive....who do we want training our kids with guns? Who do we want forcing their beliefs on our kids? Do we want to give our individual rights away to a raging government machine that is starting to sway toward socialism. HELL no. But Sota..yes I hear you. There has to be some level of accountability with gun ownership...without trampling the Constitution. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
I guess I could be for constitutional carry if Oklahoma would impose a more thorough background check. As it stands now, I can walk in and out of a store in less than 15 minutes gun and ammo in hand. I have a spotless record but I know guys with not so squeaky clean records and it's no different for them.
yes, there is no Constitutional right to drive; yet the state thinks it's completely OK to give teens access to a 8000 pound weapon as a matter of convenience. Something like 2500 teens are killed every year in car crashes.- who knows how many people they kill. One stat from 2008 I found was 5800 teens were the drivers in accidents which resulted in a fatality. Just involving teens. In 2016 there were "only" approximately 15,000 homicides committed with firearms. There were appx. 37,000 killed in motor vehicle accidents. From a purely public safety standpoint; we are all at much greater risk to be killed/injured by a vehicle (ownership of which is a convenience) than we are by any gun (ownership of which is a right.) I'm with you CLS- I'm totally OK with raising the age to buy/possess any firearm to 21 - but that must be reflected in voting age as well. My theory is if you're too irresponsible to not be off mommy and daddy's health insurance; you're too immature to buy a gun and if you're too immature to buy a gun then I sure as hell don't want you voting.
I couldn't imagine what it's like purchasing in a free state. I'd be like Red in Shawshank Redemption after he was paroled. I've been institutionalized into showing my FOID anytime I want to purchase a firearm or ammo. Which reminds me of another bill that has been filed by the current lawmakers here, they want it to where anytime you purchase ammo, the seller is to document your name, address, FOID number and ammo caliber, type and quantity to the State Police within 24 hours.
that's not true, brother. If you or anyone buys a gun from any FFL you have to pass a background check. Everywhere in the USA- that's a fact. Are you conflating Open Carry with Constitutional Carry? They are not exactly the same thing. In some states Constitutional Carry covers both open and concealed carry- no permit or background check needed. That's true "Constitutional Carry." In some states they don't technically have purely "Constitutional Carry;" it's a hybrid- they only have free or "Constitutional Open Carry"; but you still have to get a permit to Conceal Carry. To truly be considered "Constitutional Carry" it is by definition permit-less (in effect the Bill of Rights is your permit) and cannot be subject to background check (you passed due to your citizenship and are otherwise not banned from possessing a firearm due to criminal/mental status.) BUYING a gun is a different story- everyone has to pass a background check when buying from any FFL. In every state.
Yet again, IL is this messed up. We now have shall issue concealed carry(for now anyway). If you have your license, you can carry a fully loaded handgun concealed upon your person into a gun store to purchase another firearm. You still have to wait 72 hours before you can take possession of that firearm for a "cool down waiting period". You have a loaded firearm on your person already, if you weren't "cool" you would not need to stop at a store and pick up a firearm.
well, that's in case you get really mad at someone and decide to go purchase an ASSAULT WEAPON with an EXTENDED HIGH CAPACITY CLIPAZINE thingy...you now have to wait 3 days. So now you have plenty of time to plan it out to inflict the most damage possible and escape routes. So you have that going for you.
That's what I am referring to. It takes less than 15 minutes, doesn't really feel to thorough. I'm not saying felons can get a gun but I have one friend with a a&b or three and it doesn't slow him down a bit. I have another childhood friend and seriously his cornbread ain't done in the middle, has more guns than any one human needs, just a matter of time before he becomes a breaking news feature. This would be as you put it, full constitutional carry concealed or open. I'm not for that, go pony up the cash and take a class like I and the countless others did and have done since the inception of concealed carry in Oklahoma. But hey, I wouldn't want to infringe on some hot headed 21 year olds right to carry a loaded firearm concealed all willy nilly bc we all know that at that age you make totally sound decisions based on a the plethora of life experiences that you have lived.
What about training before consuming alcohol? What if a guy is convicted of two serious crimes after consuming alcohol? Should he be banned from being able to buy alcohol? Alcohol is seriously the worst thing going in the criminal justice system. More violent and stupid encounters occur when alcohol is involved. No alcohol unless trained. And ban alcohol to those who cant handle it........ lol Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
