The rant thread...

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  1. WillO

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    That kid has a face could never get tired of hitting with a shovel
     
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    Smug little richard, respect your elders.
     
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    Many young folks these days don't know the first thing about respect!
     
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    Two sides to this story, and it appears the "respected elder" felt the need to instigate this

    https://spectator.us/liberal-punch-child/

    And gateway pundit reports he has a history of this (can't get link to copy correctly)
     
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    This just pisses me off, the media only wants the story told the way they want to fit their agenda.
     
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    Doesn't stop the sheep from gobling it up as truth. (See previous post above) The bigger problem is you post a pic of a person with a maga hat and ppl already assume they're in the wrong. Compound that with it being on a white male and ppls head explode.

    Wake the hell up ppl, you're gettin played

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    Thanks Obama

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    I love a good cold snap, went to the local hay and firewood auction. I got a half cord of 2-3 year aged oak for $40. I would normally expect to pay 100-125 $ for that. I didn't really need the wood but I can't pass up a deal like that
     
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    I think it's awesome that things like this still exist
     
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    Oh it is some good people watching too. Lots of small hobby farms not a lot of farm land. It is amazing after I bought the wood I watched some of the hay being auctioned, there was some alfalfa bales that went for $10.50 each.
     
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    The young man at the center of what has been described as a hostile confrontation with an Omaha tribal elder last week denounced what he called "outright lies" on Sunday, saying he was actually trying to remain calm to defuse the tense situation.
    "I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protestor," the young man, Nick Sandmann, a junior at Covington Catholic High School in Covington, Kentucky, said in a statement his family issued through a public relations firm.

    The widely circulated video shows young men, many of them wearing Make America Great Again hats, appearing to surround a Native American troupe as it performs a song about strength and courage at the Indigenous Peoples March in Washington on Friday afternoon.
    Sandmann has become the face of the apparent confrontation, smiling silently only a foot or two from the face of Nathan Phillips, a Vietnam War veteran and prominent activist for indigenous people's causes.
    Critics have characterized the young man as smirking and trying to stare down Phillips. But other, longer videos have complicated the narrative, suggesting that there was jeering by a separate group of people before the incident recorded on the most widely

    They also taunted an African American student from my school by telling him that we would 'harvest his organs,'" Sandmann said. "I have no idea what that insult means, but it was startling to hear."
    Sandmann said that, with the permission of a teacher who was serving as a chaperone, he began leading the group of students in school spirit chants "to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group."
    After a few minutes, the native protesters began approaching, he said, "accompanied by at least one person with a camera."
    Referring to Phillips, Sandmann said: "I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.

    Sandmann, who said he has received death threats, strongly disputed characterizations that he is a racist, saying: "I am mortified that so many people have come to believe something that did not happen — that students from my school were chanting or acting in a racist fashion toward African Americans or Native Americans."
    "I did not do that, do not have hateful feelings in my heart, and did not witness any of my classmates doing that," he said, adding: "I have read that Mr. Phillips is a veteran of the United States Marines. I thank him for his service and am grateful to anyone who puts on the uniform to defend our nation. If anyone has earned the right to speak freely, it is a U.S. Marine veteran."
    Earlier in the day, Covington Catholic High School and the Catholic Diocese of Covington, near Cincinnati, had rejected any gray area in condemning "the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general."
    "The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion," the diocese and the school said in a joint statement.

    ......

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    Same kid in the rally. His statement.



    (CNN) — I am providing this factual account of what happened on Friday afternoon at the Lincoln Memorial to correct misinformation and outright lies being spread about my family and me.

    I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protestor. I arrived at the Lincoln Memorial at 4:30 p.m. I was told to be there by 5:30 p.m., when our busses were due to leave Washington for the trip back to Kentucky. We had been attending the March for Life rally, and then had split up into small groups to do sightseeing.

    When we arrived, we noticed four African American protestors who were also on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. I am not sure what they were protesting, and I did not interact with them. I did hear them direct derogatory insults at our school group.

    The protestors said hateful things. They called us "racists," "bigots," "white crackers," "faggots," and "incest kids." They also taunted an African American student from my school by telling him that we would "harvest his organs." I have no idea what that insult means, but it was startling to hear.

    Because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group. The chants are commonly used at sporting events. They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school. Our chaperone gave us permission to use our school chants. We would not have done that without obtaining permission from the adults in charge of our group.

    At no time did I hear any student chant anything other than the school spirit chants. I did not witness or hear any students chant "build that wall" or anything hateful or racist at any time. Assertions to the contrary are simply false. Our chants were loud because we wanted to drown out the hateful comments that were being shouted at us by the protestors.

    After a few minutes of chanting, the Native American protestors, who I hadn't previously noticed, approached our group. The Native American protestors had drums and were accompanied by at least one person with a camera.

    The protestor everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him. I did not see anyone try to block his path. He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face. He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.

    I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.

    I believed that by remaining motionless and calm, I was helping to diffuse the situation. I realized everyone had cameras and that perhaps a group of adults was trying to provoke a group of teenagers into a larger conflict. I said a silent prayer that the situation would not get out of hand.

    During the period of the drumming, a member of the protestor's entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we "stole our land" and that we should "go back to Europe." I heard one of my fellow students begin to respond. I motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protestor, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.

    I never felt like I was blocking the Native American protestor. He did not make any attempt to go around me. It was clear to me that he had singled me out for a confrontation, although I am not sure why.

    The engagement ended when one of our teachers told me the busses had arrived and it was time to go. I obeyed my teacher and simply walked to the busses. At that moment, I thought I had diffused the situation by remaining calm, and I was thankful nothing physical had occurred.

    I never understood why either of the two groups of protestors were engaging with us, or exactly what they were protesting at the Lincoln Memorial. We were simply there to meet a bus, not become central players in a media spectacle. This is the first time in my life I've ever encountered any sort of public protest, let alone this kind of confrontation or demonstration.

    I was not intentionally making faces at the protestor. I did smile at one point because I wanted him to know that I was not going to become angry, intimidated or be provoked into a larger confrontation. I am a faithful Christian and practicing Catholic, and I always try to live up to the ideals my faith teaches me -- to remain respectful of others, and to take no action that would lead to conflict or violence.

    I harbor no ill will for this person. I respect this person's right to protest and engage in free speech activities, and I support his chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial any day of the week. I believe he should re-think his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make.

    I am being called every name in the book, including a racist, and I will not stand for this mob-like character assassination of my family's name. My parents were not on the trip, and I strive to represent my family in a respectful way in all public settings.

    I have received physical and death threats via social media, as well as hateful insults. One person threatened to harm me at school, and one person claims to live in my neighborhood. My parents are receiving death and professional threats because of the social media mob that has formed over this issue.

    I love my school, my teachers and my classmates. I work hard to achieve good grades and to participate in several extracurricular activities. I am mortified that so many people have come to believe something that did not happen -- that students from my school were chanting or acting in a racist fashion toward African Americans or Native Americans. I did not do that, do not have hateful feelings in my heart, and did not witness any of my classmates doing that.

    I cannot speak for everyone, only for myself. But I can tell you my experience with Covington Catholic is that students are respectful of all races and cultures. We also support everyone's right to free speech.

    I am not going to comment on the words or account of Mr. Phillips, as I don't know him and would not presume to know what is in his heart or mind. Nor am I going to comment further on the other protestors, as I don't know their hearts or minds, either.

    I have read that Mr. Phillips is a veteran of the United States Marines. I thank him for his service and am grateful to anyone who puts on the uniform to defend our nation. If anyone has earned the right to speak freely, it is a U.S. Marine veteran.

    I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.

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    Very
    Fake
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    Nearly cost this kid everything.
     
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    This will end up once again as exposure for the nimble minded lefts hypocrisy of fake news reporting.

    MSM will now sweep it under the carpet because they were caught. MSM shelter one another on these things. Never calling one another out.

    Buzz Feed was not called out but instead MSM reported Buzz Feed is standing by their report Trump told Cohen to lie to congress.


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    There is an employee who consistently comes into work at 830am and leave at 3pm, while taking an hour long lunch. You are scheduled to work 7am-330pm just like me. Work your scheduled shift.
     
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    My rant is fellow employees who bust my balls about coming in at 9 instead of 8. I said check your f'ing email note that I was working from home and sent the company wide e-mail at 6:30 this morning. I am up and working with the east coast reps usually by 7 am every morning. I only come into the office because I was asked to take on additional duties of managing the in-house sales clowns who sit at their desk and answer the phone and cash commission checks.
     
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    An no one in charge does anything?

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    In the salary world, it's damned if you don't and damned if you do...

    Complain, and you could be told to mind your own business. If you have enough time to watch what others are doing, you don't have enough to do. If you don't complain, it's "well, you knew what was going on and you didn't say anything.

    In these situations, you had better know what management is thinking. Sometimes it's management building a case to disciple or dismiss that employee. Other times? Well, it's management NOT know what is going on and that manager should be discipled or fired.
     
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    They don't care, it pushes the narrative that not only every white male but every Trump supporter is racist.


    I'm actually more impressed with the way this kid acted then anything else. I'd have been smiling too cause otherwise the guy woulda got a fat lip. Idk what started this trend where ppl think they can get away with getting in someones face screaming, spitting, or beating dang a drum and not have consequences. I don't care if you're white, black, brown, purple, green, native, vetern, or the queen of England if you act that way in public then seems to me you need to be reminded how adults act. That's what he was looking for anyway so after the first or second time being asked to back up there wouldn't have been a third. He walked into the crowd of these kids they didn't surround him.

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