Build the wall. everyone of those parents is given the option of self deportation the ones in custody chose to be, and also chose separation from their children.
It's just like when people complain about the IRS, the IRS did not make the tax laws congress did. Congress and previous administrations passed the current immigration laws, I can't stand Trump, but in this case he's not wrong, he's only enforcing the laws congress has passed, that's his job.
true; but since 10k of the appx. 12k illegal alien minors in custody were unaccompanied minors; which means their parents sent them here (or they didn't have any parents) without a familiar party/legal guardian escort, then they arrived here alone anyway. What are we supposed to do with them? Again I ask, what are we supposed to do with the children of those who are pending proceedings? Send them into the desert a la Moses? wrong. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/18/nielsen-family-separation-children-trump-652448 Sec. Neilson quote today: “...314% increase in adults showing up with kids that are not a family unit.” “Those are traffickers, those are smugglers, and that is MS-13 and criminals and abusers,” she said. well, Soros isn't paying the children. He's paying the people that coach them. https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Our-World-Soross-campaign-of-global-chaos-464770 I stand by my statement- if these people COLLECTIVELY stood for their human rights as a united front within their own countries, and put forth the same amount of human and economic capital toward that end as they do paying for coyotes, bribing officials, etc to illegally enter into our country; then the world would be a better place. We need to deter those efforts that suborn our laws in any humane way possible- else we turn into those countries ourselves.
Wisco, I appreciate your open mind even more than your obviously open heart. But you have to open your eyes as well. There is an invasion of this country by people and forces more insidious than you could imagine. Surely there are innocent victims, especially the children from both sides of the border. But we must deal with those children from outside this country in the most humane manner possible; which means separating them from their detained criminal parents (yes, re-entry is a felony) and/or holding them separate from other criminal adults until their asylum eligibility and or parentage/guardianship can be established. This is the everyday reality on the border: http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018...mother-of-children-she-brought-across-border/
My theory on the whole thing is that Sessions is implementing this law because Trump was going to ax him if he didn't. And Sessions being the weak little coward that he is is going to do whatever Trump tells him. All this by Trump in hopes of convincing democrats to fund a worthless, useless border wall for the simple fact that Trump said he would build one. And since Trump has no soul, heart, and clearly no morals, he wouldn't think twice to use kids as young as 8 months old to play his game. Trump himself said this situation is "so sad...so sad". He alone could change it within the next 10 minutes if he wanted.
So the parents breaking the law with their kids in tow bear no responsibility? No personal responsibility at all?
Please explain to me how illegal immigrants with no education or skills help the economy? Who is going to fund these people?
If the President ordered the AG and DHS to ignore the law he would be not only violating his oath of office but the promises he made on the campaign. Sessions has always been one of the most hawkish Republicans in regards to immigration. Also, it is laughable that Sessions is going to do whatever Trump tells him. Trump clearly has zero control of Sessions; otherwise the Mueller investigation would A) have never happened and B) the partisan hacks in the DOJ/FBI would already be on trial. A crime is a crime. There is no "implementation" of this law- only the enforcement thereof. Your Dear Leader (and a fair number of Chamber of Commerce Republicans) happily neglected laws already on the books; and even encouraged this human wave of lawlessness. A 9th Circuit decision dictates that children cannot be held longer than 20 days (even with their parents.) So what is DHS to do once that clock runs out? The parents (or whoever is travelling with the children) decided to file for asylum. They are fully aware that this will take longer than 20 days. If they really believed they qualified for asylum they would cross at a POE and declare that immediately; then they are no longer detained but processed and released within hours, family intact. Anyone caught crossing at anything other than a designated POE who later requests asylum is simply trying to game the system. ESPECIALLY when caught with children. Spare me the "he wouldn't think twice to use kids as young as 8 months old to play his game." Democrats' 2 favorite social platforms are built on the bodies of children- both born and unborn; whichever suits their needs of the day.
Funny the party that has the right to terminate a pregnancy as a platform issue is so worried about detained children.
you can hate the source; but this article most accurately summarizes the causes and effects of this completely preventable ginned up issue: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/06/19/13-facts-border-children-family-separation/
IDGAFF how five first ladies feel about enforcing the law. F your feelings, ma'am. Goddamn people had forever to start the process for citizenship.
if we governed by feelings; then I hereby feel it is completely unfair that I pay 49% of my wages in taxes so that others can live comparable lifestyles while paying none. vive la revoluccion!
We are for protecting children from adult predators and death by exposure. histrionics aside; what do you propose, Wisco? Please propose a policy solution.
Oh i see. So pro-life has nothing to do with the actual quality of life. Got it. You already have nothing to offer on this immigration debate Sota, except snarky worthless comments, so I'm not going to get into a pro life debate with you as well. Keep liking dnoodles posts while he makes actual points though if it makes you feel part of the conversation.
Where is your "progressive" open mind? I don't quote articles big deal, evidently I ask questions that make you uncomfortable. One last question do you believe that people from other countries have the right to cross the border and that they have the same rights as citizens that pay taxes?
Well, of course I understand any policy would take a while to implement, but more immigration lawyers and judges would speed things up immensely. If we are talking actual asylum seekers who show up at actual border crossings then I see no reason why they cant be held in family holding centers (or whatever you'd want to call them). Then to get the policy to pass I'd throw in a few hundred billion for military funding on the last page.
Why not make them pay taxes too? Since im making policy here throw in no social welfare benefits for a certain amount of years and no voting for a certain amount of years. More employees for our workforce often doing jobs nobody else wants to do, still pay taxes, wouldn't leach off the system, and you wouldnt have to worry about them voting democrat.
