took the ones off my last F150 and my current Expedition. So stupid. By they way, just got back from taking a spin around town and the area neighborhoods. Wife was on me to clear the driveway so once I did I had to get out in it. That 2013 Expedition is easily the second best vehicle type I have had in snow. The best being 90s/00s Cherokee Classics. The Expedition has independent suspension all the way around, so it's kind of like AWD but in 4H all wheels appear to get the same amount of power. With the TCS it's like having limited slip on all 4 wheels. I've had it out in snow before but nothing deep like this. Had a freaking blast tonight.
TCS and auto correct steering pisses me off, I cut my teeth on rear wheel drive V8's. I do not need assistance that a computer tells it to let off the brake pressure because it senses one tire locked up. I know how to peddle and I know when to hold the brake for the slide needed to stop. Anti traction and ABS have cost me a few unnecessary stop sign runs that were luckile clear. Auto correct steering is the worst though
Hoping to test out my cherokee in the snow tomorrow, first time we have had snow since I had a lift and bigger tires. I love flying by the big 4 x 4 trucks that are stuck while I am driving like the streets are clear.
At your own risk; but I used to drive mine in 4WD at 60mph down unplowed country roads with a 2" lift on Bridgestone Dueler ATs. It absolutely shredded deep powder. (I had 33s or metric equiv; but this tread pattern)
as to this post; I would normally agree but the Expedition's TCS is wayyy better than the one in my F15o. Maybe it's the all-around independent suspension and transaxles, but like I said the TCS acts like limited slip on a solid axle. One wheel starts slipping, instead of decreasing power all around like a normal TCS it just distributes it to the other wheels. If the other wheel starts slipping it just keeps even power. It only decreases power if more than 2 wheels are slipping bad; regardless if front or rear. Or you can just turn it off and get full power to all the wheels, all the time. But it's not as effective as it sounds. The TCS is actually better for control. And I don't say that lightly, I am at heart a stick shift driving, pedal thrashing sumbitch. Got these in 33s on my Expedition with a 2" lift; they also eat snow like crazy (I have 17" wheels, but you get the point) ...but you are right; autocorrect steering is THE WORST. Have it in my work vehicle, a 21 Traverse. Turned it off. Other than being over modernized, I actually really like that vehicle. It's fast AF, comfortable on long drives, and good in the snow. And happens to get about 30mpgs; not that I pay for the gas.
Where on earth did this happen? I've been driving 4x4 trucks, some lifted and some stock for over 35 years. I have never been stuck in snow on a public road in any 4x4 truck much less having a slightly lifted cherokee go flying past me. The jeeps and cherokees excel in tight places like rock crawling or driving on trails through the woods. I see no advantage on a snow covered road.
I live in Arkansas, grew up in Canada. Does that explain it? Happened last year when we a foot and half on snow.
I do this now with my stock trucks, even my new Ram with road tires. Powder snow gives decent traction. You can get down to a firm base without squeezing water out of the snow and creating ice like you get with wet packy snow. The wet stuff is the worst.
No, not really. Were you in Arkansas or Canada? Only thing I can surmise is that you were in Arkansas and you were up against drivers that weren't familiar with driving in the snow. Something you had going for you from your time in Canada.
i am in Arkansas currently where most of that has happened. But, it has happened in Canada too. Most of the immigrants can’t drive in good weather much less winter weather.
Weatherman lied; predicted three inches and barely got an 1 1/2. Snow is supposed to pick up later in the morning. Maybe by end of day we will get three inches.
I watch about 10 minutes of an episode of my 600 pound life, good god a woman who laid in bed unable to get out for 2 years and then there were no sheets on the bed. so gross.
Solid front axle Cherokees get more power delivered up front than an IFS on a newer pickup; 4x4 or not. In both my 08 Ram and my 15 F150 I have had the ass end start getting squirrely on me many times in 4WD, especially on overpasses. I'd be much more comfortable driving my old Cherokee or my Expedition at 10-20mph faster in snowy/icy conditions than I would any IFS pickup that had a solid rear.
I'm not sure how a solid axel truck gets more power delivered up front. Never heard of that or experienced that. I do know that in some situations the ifs trucks can apply better distributed power to the ground than solid axel trucks. My '05 f150 was great in the snow. I'm sure that the heavy fiberglass cap helped keep the back end from getting "squirrely". Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk
Got done plowing the drive, most of it anyway about an hour ago. I'm sure some neighbors had a good laugh, probably looked like @Sota out there plowing Had to push a lot of it into middle of yard and just keep doing that. Tore up one downspout as I forgot how he routed it when I had gutters replaced 2 years ago. Oh well, it's done and probably $15 to repair it. I was nervous some of the neighbors were going to come out and offer some money to do theirs, luckily they didn't and I can understand why
That said, my next investment is going to be a snowblower. I have one now I bought about 6 years ago from a neighbor for $50. It's a craftsman 2 stroke but never really ran right, always had to run with choke fully on and it didn't like leaves or dead grass in cracks. Usually on 4 strokes the choke thing is a dirty main jet, but I've never messed with 2 stroke carbs.
