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The problem with protesting athletes.

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sota, Oct 24, 2017.

  1. Sota

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    They tend to be a little self absorbed or at a minimum not self aware or in some cases self-centered. An example a young man just a rookie playing for the Oakland Athletics. Bruce Maxwell was the first MLB player to take a knee during the anthem. Now one would say he is using his position to make a statement about his beliefs during a time when he is at work for his employer and that is a nobel act. So Bruce goes back to his home town in Alabama and goes out for lunch with his high school friend and a city councilman. The waiter asked Bruce if he was indeed the player who kneeled for the anthem and Bruce said yes he was. The Waiter replied that he supports President Donald and his position on athletes standing for the anthem and refused to serve him. The waiter chose to make a statement while working for his employer about how he feels about the anthem and the professional athlete runs to the media to report the way he was unjustly treated. That is why fans are tuning out.
     
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    White people are tuning out because minorities protesting makes white America uncomfortable. Minorities aren't tuning out.

    As has always happened in history, the majority will spin the minority protest into what makes them feel comfortable. In this case, making it anti USA, anti military, etc. Then we can try to force the uncomfortableness to stop.

    Ironically, I saw a study that of those questioned, 74% of those who think NFL players are disrespecting the country also believe you should be able to fly the confederate flag...the most anti-American symbol in our countries history.
     
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    "White people are tuning out because minorities protesting makes white America uncomfortable. Minorities aren't tuning out." - Post up your source for this, but I am guessing nothing credible. Lol.
     
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    Differing opinions are essentially going to divide this country and drive it into the ground. There will never be a middle ground on anything anymore.
     
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    People are tuning out because nobody knows what the hell is being protested any more. It started with one idiot protesting a lie. A few more glommed on. this year it started out as some showing support because Kaepernick didn't have a job. Then there are those like Michael Bennett who have been caught in a misrepresentation of events, then it became a show of unity because of Trump. Now it is more about showing that we can protest when other say they shouldn't. When nobody knows what the protest is about, it really isn't a protest anymore, it is just making a scene.
     
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    Ironically I saw several studies say that Hillary Clinton was going to win the last election by a grossly large margin....

    That was also Bullspit.
     
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    The irony in these two statements :-). Northern people (majority) consider this flag to be offensive, southern people (minority) for the most part don't see it that way, they just view it as a symbol of the south.

    Sorry, off-topic but this made me smile.


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    I just go with the head guy in the south at the time;)

    Athletes, lawyers, guys on website want to protest, have at it, you're not going to bother me.
     
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    Nice spin.
     
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    I had to check the time stamp on Vito’s post to make sure it wasn’t from 5 years ago.


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    I don't care what they're protesting. Disrespecting the flag and the national anthem don't work for me. I'm a proud American and a U.S. veteran. I put my life on the line protecting America and the symbols there of. When there's people making millions of dollars playing a sport in which the only thing they've ever protected in their life was a goal post saying they're standing against oppression by disrespecting that which I put my life on the line for while not even making minimum wage pisses me off. What could they making millions of dollars, possibly know about true oppression... really? If they want to truly fight oppression let them put their money where their mouth is... or better yet where my oppressed pockets are. We know there won't be any takers there. Signed a true and upset American Veteran.
     
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    Sounds like you got your finger on the pulse of middle class America right there, or maybe not. Perhaps there are many "White" Americans that realize that there has been a false narrative going on for the nearly 10 years now that there are still a majority of racists in this country. That's not reality, not even close. Sure there's your slim minority of idiots out there there are racist, but the vast majority of white people are not racist, they are just sick and tired of the narrative and being labelled a racist if they don't agree with the liberal's agenda. Most of us are realist and realize that there's are fundamental issues that are widening the division between races, mostly driven by the media and political figures that are just trying to buy votes. Media sensationalism and their ability to instantly place blame without the facts have created a huge divide that wasn't there 10 years ago.
    Case in point, 25 year old white woman was shot by the police in my town over the weekend. She apparently fled and shot at the cops, they returned fire and killed her. Amazingly we don't have any paid protesters, there were no riots, or businesses were not looted and burned to the ground. There wasn't any outside media coverage, no automatic blame and questioning of the officers motives. What's the difference I ask myself? a 25 year old woman, shot while fleeing. If the narrative would have been slightly different, I would expect nothing less than the likes of Ferguson.
     
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    The confederate flag is a part of American history and should be respected for that which it is. It is also a state flag. It was used as a symbol but has truly never oppressed anyone. People have oppressed people's but not any flag that I'm aware of anyway. even that was well over a hundred years ago. Get over it people. Can not we just progress as a nation. I was born in the " north " and have spent most of my adult years in the "south". It's all America... the greatest nation on earth!!!! In my humble opinion anyway.
     
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    White people are tuning out because minorities protesting makes white America uncomfortable.
    I'm tuning out because they are a bunch of over paid idiots that should respect this country. Most of them don't even know what the hell they are protesting for. Racial injustice and cop killings I believe was the original reason? 61% of cop shootings are on white people. The whole narrative is a bunch of made up BS by the Obuma admin. Here's an idea. Don't be high, rob a store, fight with a cop and try to steal his gun and maybe your odds of getting shot decrease? Just a thought.

    By the way this white American is very comfortable in my office chair watching the snowflakes protest. I just shake my head in disbelief.
     
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    So the Flag used my the Nazi's is a part of Germany history, with your above logic should that flag be respected as a part of German history? The flag never oppressed anyone, right?
     
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    Would it not be treasonist to fly the confederate flag north of the mason dixon unless there was underlying symbolism?
     
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    My neighbor does, LOL He's a cool dude, I dared him to put it in his truck and drive down 8 mile in Detroit;)

    My gun dealer has it in his window.

    It's a free country, right? I think it's ignorant to fly it, but that's just my thoughts.
     
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    Any northerner I have met that flies the confederate flag is a complete dumbass.
     
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    You are very smart, I'll say it again.
     
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    Interesting follow up from the waiter in question and the restaurant manager, it would seem Bruce's friend did not have a photo id on him so the waiter refused to provide alcohol to Bruce and they asked for a different waiter. Interesting developments and will only undermine other claims of racism.
     
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