Guys I had a great encounter t.his morning with 2 4 yr old deer. They were on a trail 60 yards from the stand. First one was a 140 9 point I got lots of pics of . The second one was 150 inch 11 point I haven't seen before. Both on a mission and had their heads down. Tried to grunt and rattle a little. No effect on the first one but the second paused for a moment. I had a couple of does go thru 1 hour before on that same trail.definitely getting some more daytime movement on the bucks the last few days. Good luck guys.