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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, Feb 1, 2015.

  1. Lester

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    Your argument makes ZERO sense after your own addmision that the team around the QB comes into play. Has any of the players in the GOAT conversation play with as many average players?
     
  2. Skywalker

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    Actually, they did not qualify for the playoffs that year, even thought they won 11 games. It would have been interesting if they had and he had taken them to the Super Bowl. That could have changed how history views all of this.
     
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    Scott/IL Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Alright, thanks I stand corrected. I figured 11 wins would have got them in.
     
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    It makes a lot of sense. Genius coach makes everyone better. If they were so average how does that D Always seem to make be in the right place and continue to be solid? They never are a sieve like Green Bays D has been which has been the downfall for the packers for a couple of seasons since 2011.

    If BB isn't the coach Brady doesn't have 4 rings. He might not have any.




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  5. Skywalker

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    I thinks it's about the only time it didn't. Only reason I know is because the Chiefs traded for him after that season.
     
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    Cassel took over for one of the best teams in the history of football in 2008 ('07 Patriots)... Brady has played with good teams and bad teams... I don't see that as a positive or a negative really.

    By that same argument Luck took over right where Manning left off as a rookie no less.
     
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    I am shocked BB did not one won at Cleveland when he coached, nor did he win won without TB. It takes a village
     
  8. Skywalker

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    Nobody will win one in Cleveland :poke:
     
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    LOL common ground both sides can stand on there...
     
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    Touche.
     
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    I couldn't disagree more.....the QB makes the coach, not the other way around....
     
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    Why can't Aaron Rodgers fix the damn defense then?
     
  13. Skywalker

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    Sometimes, but that's not always the case. Some coaches can win with mediocre QB's.
     
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    Let me rephrase....Rodgers does everything on his side of the ball to win superbowls every year....their defense is sub par... When have you seen a team win consistently with bad a defense?
     
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    Only of they have a good defense....
     
  16. Skywalker

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    They are only going to have a good defense if they have a good coach....
     
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    You also need playmakers....I believe the players make the coach..for the most part
     
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    This>>>>

    BB "It's a players game, the team who makes the most plays, wins"
     
  19. Skywalker

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    As much as it pains me to say, BB can take an average nobody and all the sudden he's a playmaker. Guys that can't make it on other teams, or just average players on other teams.
     
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    Let him have Kyle Orton and we'll see how that works for him....he would have ZERO rings, IMO
     

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