You can say what you want about what ifs......but if Lynch got that ball, Brady would be a 3 time loser and looking at tying Kelly for most losses by a QB in a Super bowl.... He is still one of the greatest ever, but that ONE call changed people's view of Brady in history...whether you believe it or not ....
I'm not going to talk about what if's, but that was the dumbest play call in the history of the NFL. You have arguably the toughest back in the league to tackle, you have a time out and 30 seconds. RUN THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't imagine what was going through their heads that thought throwing a slant into the teeth of the defense was a good idea. You want to throw a fade, or something like that, ok, I wouldn't like it but why would you even give the defense a chance at making a play on the ball. That will go down in history as the most epic Super Bowl fail of all times!!!!
There is no one that says Montana is the GOAT didnt have WAY more talent on his team by far compared to what Brady has played with over the year's.
Yep.... The good thing about watching 2 teams you hate...there is satisfaction watching one of them lose..that's my consolation prize
Since football is a team sport I think you have to judge the GOAT more on their actual importance to the team rather than how that player's team does. Trent Dilfer won a SB for heavens sake and it wasn't because he was a good QB he was average at best. He was on a great team with a great D. I will say BB is probably the greatest coach of all time. But just looking at Brady himself as a QB he is not the GOAT IMO.
I'm aware of that I just think this game illustrates how overrated championships are to one's legacy More often than not, its pure luck to win one. That is what I mean when I say that this win shouldn't really affect Brady's legacy one way or the other.
And when they lose who's fault is it? Name me the O-line on Elway's 4 SB loses, can anyone without looking it up? When a team wins the QB gets the credit, when the lose, they get the credit. It's how it works.
And if my aunt had balls... she'd be my uncle. I don't see how people can point to the play call and completely ignore the absurdity of the catch that set up the goal line drive in the first place.
Cop out answer. Trent Dilfer does not get any credit for winning the SB with the Ravens. Getting the credit for a team win doesn't make you the GOAT. If BB isn't the coach of that team how many does Brady win? Be truthful now.
I kind of agree with that logic. I hate ring counters more than those who write them off as irrelevant to a players legacy. Championships have to be a factor, but not an end all be all. I also find it silly when people say two SB losses are a negative. It just means he was able to get his team to the final game two more times than all the others out there. Didn't work out for the final game, but the consistency of reaching the biggest stage across several different rosters (even decades now) is unmatched IMO.
That's a cop out response too. How many rings does BB have if Brady wasn't his QB this whole time? They are definitely a match made in heaven. Kind of Like Phil and MJ or Phil and Kobe...
Does anyone base their opinion from actually watching both Montana and Brady play the game rather than just throwing a bunch of numbers around from two entirely different era's? And enough with Joe Montana having so much talent around him his whole career. The Niners were losers until he became their full time starter and won two Super Bowls before Rice was on the team. As I said before I can see the argument for either one of them and there is no clear answer and probably never will be.
For the 49ers: In 1979, Walsh was hired as head coach of the San Francisco 49ers. The long-suffering 49ers went 2–14 in 1978, the season before Walsh's arrival and repeated the same dismal record in his first season. Walsh got the entire organization to buy into his philosophy and vowed to turn around a miserable situation. Despite their second consecutive 2-14 record, the 49ers were playing more competitive football. In 1979, Walsh drafted quarterback Joe Montana from Notre Dame in the third round. After a 59-14 blowout loss to Dallas in week 6 of the 1980 season, Walsh promoted Montana to starting QB. On a Monday Night Football game, December 7, 1980, vs. the New Orleans Saints, Montana brought the 49ers back from a 35-7 halftime deficit to win 38-35 in overtime. The 49ers improved in 1980 to 6–10, but more importantly, Walsh had the 49ers making great strides and they were getting better every week. San Francisco won its first championship in 1981, just two years after winning two games. In addition to drafting Joe Montana, Walsh drafted Ronnie Lott, Charles Haley, and Jerry Rice. He also traded a 2nd and 4th round pick in the 1987 draft for Steve Young. His success with the 49ers was rewarded with his election to the Professional Football Hall of Fame in 1993.
I won't argue that Tom Brady isn't one of the greatest Super Bowl QB's, but that's not the same as GOAT IMO. It annoys me when people disregard an entire body of work for just 6 games (in this case) in the GOAT conversations. Take the whole picture of over the course of 14 years or whatever it is. Are Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson better QB's than Dan Marino since they had unbelievable D's, something they have zero control over? I think Brady is a very, very good QB, got drafted into a golden situation, and performs in the clutch. But let's be honest, Matt Cassel won 11 games and a playoff berth with the same scheme.
