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Super Bowl aftermath?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by NY Bowhunter, Feb 8, 2013.

  1. NY Bowhunter

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    2 questions I'm curious on your opinions:

    1. Do you think the power outage really made a difference in momentum and the almost comeback by the 49ers?

    Personally, I don't buy it. I keep hearing how it was very timely for the 49ers to regroup and gather themselves. They just had a 30 minute (time to regroup) halftime. They used their time to regroup to come out and give up a 108 yard kickoff return on the very first play of the second half. So if halftime didn't allow them to regroup, how does the power outage. I think the 49ers just started balling IMO. Kind of like a rain delay in baseball. No team has an advantage when play resumes. Athletes still have to go out and make plays.

    2. Do you think the play in the endzone was holding/pass interference by the defense?

    I'm 51% to 49% on this. By the letter of the law... yes. But the way it was officiated all game and considering the moment I barely lean towards no call. Also like has been pointed out Crabtree initiated contact and got himself tangled up with the CB. Bad route-iffy call=no call I think.
     
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    1) I believe it allowed the Ravens to lose a bit of focus, but not really that much of an effect.

    2) It was 100% defensive holding.

    But the worst no-call was the 49er getting absolutely mugged by 2 Ravens at the 50 yard line on the kick-off return.
     
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    1) If it swayed momentum, it was the Ravens own fault, but I don;t think it was a big deal either way.

    2) Yes that was a bad no call. Reminded me of the bad pass interference call in the Miami/OSU National championship game of years ago.
     
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    Worse no-call than the blatant late hit on Flacco or the blatant defensive holding on the 9ers on the previous drive? C'mon, anybody that actually thinks that last call decided the game is mistaken. The refs had already decided early on in the game that they were going to let it get physical.

    Original Post- Yeah, I think it swayed the momentum slightly, not because it threw the Ravens completely off their game, but because it allowed the 49ers to regroup. The Ravens had them knocked off balance and ready for the knockout punch. The 49ers gained from the outage, luckily the Ravens already had a solid lead.


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  5. Hooker

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    uh yes

    the 2 Ravens straight mugging the only guy that could have tackled Jones was the worse call of the game
     
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    No, I don't think it caused a momentum shift. The 49ers just started playing like they were capable. Defensive holding for sure on the last play, but like has already been said, the 49ers got themselves in too deep of a hole to begin with, so one play can't necessarily be blamed. You need to play all 4 quarters.

    Wouldn't have mattered anyway. If Ginn had returned that punt, Flacco was prepared to take him out.
     
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    I have my doubts about the effect of the power outage helping the 49ers that much. They are professionals and should be able to deal with that type of stuff.


    I thought the defensive holding could of gone either way and have no problem with them not throwing the flag. I also would not of criticized the ref for throwing the flag either. Darn close call IMO.
     
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    The best team won. I believe the game was very well officiated. The other day they showed similar holdings and pass interference by the 49ers that weren't called. It's a push. The Ravens put them on their heels and only a power outage allowed them to get their balance. I think some of you forget that the Ravens, already up bigtime, ran the second half kick off back for a TD. Before the power outage the niners were at 3 and 14. It was only going to get uglier. Yes, the outage screwed up the momentum. Raven offense went 80 minutes without being on the field. Sure it screws you up or in this case helped the hapless niners regroup.
     
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    So did the 49ers offense ....
     
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    With apologies to Disney

    Simba goes to his father Mufasa and askes him,

    "Father what is this Super Bowl I hear about?"

    "I have no idea," Mufasa replies, "We're Lions."
     
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    its too bad everyone only remembers the last play as a bad call. it was very fairly officiated. theres a reason you didnt see torri smith deep in the niners secondary very often; he was held the entire game. And the last thing the niners should be complaining about is a missed pass interference call after that blown call against the Falcons where Bowman was all over roddy white. they shouldnt have even made it to the super bowl. Btw how bout akers acting... theres 3 pts. if you give the ravens the blatant late hit/roughing the passer call that puts them inside the 10 for an almost guaranteed touchdown which would have given the ravens a two possession lead.... game over. Not to mention the frank gore run where the O-lineman held pollard from behind
     
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    Lol,
    It was a hold, but Crabtree ran a piss poor route.
     
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    Friend is a 9'ers fan, sent me this pic of the hold in question. I think the power outage had minimal effect, 9'ers have been good in the 2nd half all season.

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    Its a shame both teams couldnt lose ....
     
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    The Lighting Director I work for doing the Milwaukee Ballet was the LD for the Half time show, has been for years. He told me that once he saw the electrical hook ups at the Superdump he had the entire Show on generators, tied no power into the Dumps distros! Good move aye!
     
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    Defensive holding by definition.

    Whether it should have been called at that moment...
     
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    And the ravens have played exceptional defense in the second half during the playoffs. it works both ways. There was an obvious shift in momentum
     
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    Both teams were subject to the power outage.........not just one.

    If it negatively effected one team its their own fault .

    Its no different than a long baseball rian delay
     
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    That was a blatant holding penalty and the refs did a terrible job. How did 29 for Baltimore not get ejected for shoving the ref?
     
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    Play at the end of the game was definitely a hold and should of been called but I'm glad it wasn't. That was some of the worst play calling by sf I gave ever seen. You have one of the best running qbs in the league and not 1 play to win the game of him scrambling. And that pass play to Crabtree. I think it was 2nd down what were they thinking????
     

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