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  1. frantic29

    frantic29 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    So I have been having problems grouping consistently. Nothing terrible most all my shots during practice would kill a deer but it just really wasn't as tight as I wanting. I tuned and tuned but couldn't figure anything out. In addition I couldn't get any kind of broad head tune to save my life. I finally attributed that to just my form or lack there of.

    Well 2 days ago I just got really fed up. Went home and just switched my rest out to a NAP Quicktune 360 I had laying around. Went back out and within about 15 minutes and 2 adjustments I was putting the arrows back into the same holes time and time again. Then I was thinking well if I can do this this quick I'll give broad head tuning another try.

    On my next shooting session I went in that foray and by the end of it I was tuned out to 25. When I go to the next pin (35) things start going a little south but still I'm grouping my broad heads only about 2in below the field tips which are still hitting dead center. Would go ahead and try to remedy it but I'm out of elevation adjustment on my rest. Pretty sure my nock point isn't exactly where its supposed to be a little low I believe. Not going to move it at this point since that will also require a move of the peep which is tied in. Just going to adjust the 35yd pin a touch to compensate. On top of that I won't take a 35 yd shot anyway. Just want the pin for practice and reference.

    I know its not perfect tuning but either way I am super excited something finally went my way this summer and just in the nick of time. First time on stand will be this weekend. I'm attributing most of my issues to not effectively setting up the drop away. Just don't think I ever got the hang of the correct things to do to make it work. On top of that any elevation adjustment required a lift cord reset which I got fed up with too easily. Sometimes I guess its better to just go with what you know and understand.
     
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  2. brucelanthier

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    Good for you for wanting to get it right. Hope you have success this season.

    Whenever you go to adjust your nock point you may want to lower it, though. From the description of the impact point of the BH's, it sounds a little high. Picture this, lowering the nock point will raise the tip of the arrow which will make the BH's impact a little higher, closer to your FP's. you probably don't need to lower much but you may want to lower it more than needed so that you can gain some of the elevation adjustment back for your rest.
     
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    frantic29 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Thats exactly what I thought at first. But when I started tuning my broad heads were hitting 6" below the FP. As I raised the rest the FP moved but the BH never did move. As I moved the rest down from the original point everything moved down but the FP moved more than the BH. Makes no sense to me from what I read. I ran out of down adjustment in the rest which is what makes me think the nock point was too low to begin with. There also may be something else going on that I don't know to look for but either way this was about a 30yd step in the right direction and I'll take it.

    Does this sound weird to you. I know it does to me. What are some other things to look for. I don't how I would be having any fletch clearance issues given to how these rests are made. The only thing I could figure was nock height causing the need for weird adjustments.
     
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    Sounds like something is not the way it should be but I can't imagine your nock point is so far off that it requires you to move the rest that much. Could your fletch be hitting the riser shelf? Put some powder on your riser and maybe the rest, wherever you think you might be getting some contact where you shouldn't get contact and see if the fletch is hitting. You could also put a bit of red lipstick along the edge of the fletch and then, if there is contact somewhere, it will show up pretty quickly.
     
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    how is our timing on the cams, also did the draw weight adjustment get off some how? just my 2 cents
     
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    selfbros Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I too have a Jennings Buckmaster 2000. I had the string replaced this year for the first time EVER. I know right? My first shots were about a foot and a half high. I adjusted my sights and was finally getting arrows in the larger circle but nothing consistent. I tried paper tuning and I had a 2 in tear down and to the left. I replaced my rest with a WB and moved it up and to the right. I still have a 1/4 in tear in the same direction. My arrows are starting to group better, but I'm by no means touching arrows in the target. Is there a tool or method to lining up your rest to your knock???
     
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    I'll give the powder a shot this morning and see how it goes. I knew when the opposite adjustment started helping instead of the correct one that something is off somewhere. Thanks for your help.
     

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