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Study shows CWD infects monkeys if they eat the meat

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  1. Sota

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    While it is a little dirty I would reinstall it and get back to mowing.:biggrin:
     
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    do people actually have concern over contracting cwd? People obviously would have gotten it by now. Study over. Stop wasting mone
     
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    If people can be made more scared of it, more money comes in to study it.
     
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    Good thing we aren't monkeys
     
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    Correct, 50+ years of Direct study of humans eating CWD infected meat. This was a free study but researchers need grant money.
     
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    70 years ago CWD didn't exist. Now it's in what, 25-30 states?
    Nature evolves. Our thought process better evolve as well or we may be next. Which will evolve first- simple prions to be more infectious or complex herbivores to be more resistant?
     
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    I don't think that is a factual statement. You would be correct if you stated, "We didn't know it existed 70 years ago because we didn't know what it was or how to look for it or how to detect it or to test for it". Since its naturally occurring in cervids and humans, It existed well beyond our ability to detect it.

    The earth used to be flat and Alzheimer's disease was always there in humans well before we knew to call it that. There will be others things that were always there that we have yet to discover and once we discover them, we will assume that is when they began rather than admitting its only a point in time we finally found it.

    It was not that long ago that deer numbers in WI were so low that we couldn't even hunt them. Now where the population is very very high, there are enough that certain maladies can spread through higher concentrations.
     
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    Back when I raised meat birds I would not process a bird that was sick, any gangrene and the bird was discarded. I know sick cattle are not accepted to be processed. My point is I would not eat any animal that was sick or diseased when it was butchered.
     
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    The problem is CWD may have a ~2 year life with only the last 6 weeks or so any visible effects...

    Similar problem existed with BSE, though once is jumped species (bovine to human) ~200 variant CJD cases were identified as tied to BSE.

    The podcast is a good resource to learn.
     
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    I understand the disease is not evident till the end phase. If it were available I would pay to have a deer I shot for tested for disease.
     
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    There is no proof of this, and those involved in the study of these prion diseases say they have always been here, but 70 years ago, we didn't know what they were.
     
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    IO - you wrote - "There has been a direct human study being conducted since the 1960's. hundreds of thousands of pounds of CWD infected venison eaten by tens of thousands of humans over 50 years. There has been no recorded link between eating CWD infected meat and a human host being infected. THis study is ongoing."

    Where is this study? Can you provide a link to this statement?
    I cannot find any study that states hundreds of thousands of pounds of CWD infected venison eaten by tens of thousands of humans over 50 years.
     
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    I think he meant all the hunters (and others) who have eaten cwd infected animals already...results are not in yet and the paper is yet to be written :tu:
     
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    Using that same logic you could say humans have been affected, but it was never known because no tests were ever done. Maybe it would affect humans different than animals? Nobody knows. It could explain I.O.'s behavior at the very least. Lol.

    On a serious note, Wisconsin has a very big problem in front of them because of the crazy high infected rates.

    Who would pay fair market value for recreational property in these "high" infected rates?

    How does a regional food pantry "morally" accept meat from these areas without mandatory testing?

    Would you feed your son & daughter a medium rare venison steak that Uncle Jim Bob didn't test?

    If your local butcher mixes meat for sausage and testing deer is not mandatory, how do you give that meat away to family & friends?
     
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    LOL. How much time did you spend searching? Did you do a search on cases of VCJD in states where hunters have eaten CWD infected meat for 50 years?
     
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    No "controlled" tests anyway. :alien: And nothing can explain I.O. :poke: but a good pot stirring is always good fun :)

    Maybe humans aren't affected...and maybe the TSE just hasn't made the jump (to the human species). Seems there are ample unknowns...which would seem to be reasons for more research.

    Scrappie has been known for hundred of years...the first TSE identified but the sciences lagged.

    BSE wasn't well known till variant CJD and/or someone realized that problem and the source. Many (million+) cows were put down with Only about 200 cases of variant CJD...could've been much worse...

    Who knows what's next...seems like it would be worth research $ to me.
     
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    me. Over and over.

    With a huge smile and a thank you from them. I don't anybody that bothers to have the meat tested any more. The hype has passed.

    Everybody that ever ate a carrot will die.
     
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    So are you telling us you don't have a link to your claim?

    I do not find a 50 year study of CWD infected meat being eaten by hundreds of thousands of people. Please share with us your data.
     
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    How much time did you spend looking? When you shoot a deer in WI and have it tested and the results are positive you are contacted. Why have a desire to know if you have consumed any of the meat. You are then added to a registry of know consumers of CWD infected meat. This is not just a WI thing and its been going on for a long time. Did you do a search on cases of VCJD in states where hunters have eaten CWD infected meat for 50 years?.
     

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