Stripped of his rights or did he bring this on himself? (Cop Video)

Exactly

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The cop never explained this. The kid asked several times if he was being detained.

 

He wasn't stupid...he knew what he was doing...

 

Professional.

 

It's kind of amusing to see people categorizing other posters, about whom they know nothing, in order to demean what that person posts.

We live in a solidly lower class neighborhood. The ratio of home owner to renter is about 50/50. I grew up just a few blocks from where I live now. A few years ago, the high school/middle school I would have attended was about 80% minority. They adjusted the boundaries and I grew up just inside the new boundary and attended the high school/middle school on the other side of town, about 50% minority. It was a standing joke that we could never have a Columbine at our school because some of the students would be shooting back.

My mother worked six nights a week from 6PM until about 2AM as a waitress in a bar/restaurant. I stayed home by myself from the time I was eight so we would not have to pay for day care.

Our neighborhood is probably about 1/3 minority. Our neighbors on one side are Hispanic and on the other side are black. Both families are very nice people. My husband and the black guy used to trade off snow blower duties. But he developed some health problems and had to quit, so my husband takes care of his sidewalk and driveway. He stops in now and then and gives my husband ten bucks. (Beer money.) My husband bought this house as a repo and restored the place. We own it free and clear so it helps the budget not having house payments.

This happened before we were married, but two houses down, at five in the morning, some guys pulled up and starting shooting at the house. The guy who lived there came outside to return fire and wound up shot to death on his lawn. The cops figured it was drug related. They never caught the guys. The convenience store where I met my husband has been robbed at gunpoint twice in the last six months and the liquor store at the end of our street was robbed at gunpoint just a couple of weeks ago. There are a couple of houses down the block where three or four police cars will show up on a regular basis. Nobody really knows why.

I have nothing against cops. I just don't think they should be above the law.

 

No doubt. And the cop knew what the kid was doing as well and that the kid was right. The cop even said so in the video.

 

Simple question to the leo here.

Did this leo follow protocol. If no, where did he go off course.

Leave personal fillings out if it, was it by the book. Even down to having the k9 brought in.

Why is a k9 even at a dui checkpoint anyway? There search is supposed to be only for dui and or illegals. Per the supreme court .

I guess the k9 can be used for searching for illegals but that clearly wasn't the case here.



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Interesting bio, but unnecessary. No matter where you've been/what you've seen, you still don't get what I'm saying. And that's okay. If we were all the same, life would be boring.

Here's my bottom-line point with this case: The kid was a d-bag and the officer had no clue as to why his behavior was so erratic. At a DUI checkpoint, this alone warrants further investigation. The dog was on stand-by and was called in because when somebody behaves so erratically, yet shows no signs of alcohol consumption, it's a strong indicator that drugs may be to blame.

The kid was a complete pita, which prompted the officer to be less than polite & courteous. I'll grant you that much. But to imply that the kid's "civil rights were abused" is an absolute joke. Period.

This kid received zero lumps, bruises, cuffs or hands-on contact of any kind. In fact, I don't even recall recall any foul language from the officers.

He was inconvenienced for 5 minutes.

Get serious.

 

You can't always depend on cops to know the law. Apparently there was a pretty funny incident on the Upper Peninsula regarding DUI checkpoints. It seems a sheriff department up there, after the Michigan Supreme Court ruled them illegal here, set up a DUI checkpoint. It seems they were only aware of, and excited by, the U.S. Supreme Court ruling approving them.

It seems they got reamed by the District Court judge when they brought their catch in for arraignment.



Probably kind of embarrassing.

 

Has nothing to do with anything.

 

They do not have power, the uphold the law. Two very different points.

 

Josh, the leo knew what he was up to as soon as he exited the car. You can hear them ask if he is a law student. Then in the car the officer states he knows the law and the constitution. They knew he was NOT driving under the influence and searched his vehicle anyway. Imo, the dog was also scratching the vehicle on command which is just rediculous.


If there is sufficient evidence someone is under the influence of alcohol or drugs, then they can arrest said person and search vehicle anyway. The k9 is just a way to skirt the law imo and either harass a punk kid like this one or search someone they suspect but have no proof of illegal activity, which has nothing to do with a dui. So imo, skirting the constitution.

I, in no way condone this kids actions but I also do not condone the leo in this case. It is uncalled for and illegal, even if it is standard practice.

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I also understand the leo have a tough and dangerous job and in no way am I trying to show disrespect for them or their job.

One the otherhand, there are laws in this country that are supposed to protect us, the citizens from unlawful search and seizure as well as from being harrassed.

We have these laws for important reasons. I think we need not forget that.

If the kid didn't feel these laws were being broken on a regular basis, he's not being a prick on this night. And yes, I do feel he is a little prick but that does not excuse the leo in this case.

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Perfectly said IMO.

 

Well, according to most here, they should have the power to detain me if I threaten their ego.

And most cops have a difficult time understanding the law in which they are supposed to uphold.

 

No I get what you're saying. I just don't agree with you, that's all. I taught a class this last term. I had a student who did his best to be annoying. He objected to being taught by a grad student, but that's what happens when you register late. He objected to his instructor being a "little kid." (I look like a ten-year old.) He even insulted my hair. I ignored him.

Now here's the problem with a cop getting emotionally involved when someone shows attitude. Unlike teaching, being a cop can be kind of dangerous. And letting your emotions cloud what should be clear-headed thinking could cause a cop to miss clues that could cost him. This guy is not practicing what they taught him at the police academy, I'm sure.

He endangers himself and his partners when he lets his emotions control his behavior instead of established police procedure.

Okay some of you think what he did was cool. But there are others who think he's boorish and crude, definitely not the image of the professional police officer that we would like to see.

Now do you get what I'm saying?

 

Hell you think an average person has the right to bother you when you are walking down a street, LOL

Most cops? So I take it you have talked with "most" of the cops in this nation

 

Random Q, when the dog scratches the vehicle, who pays for the damage?

 

Idk but I would be suing if it were me. Probably wouldn't do any good but I would have to try.

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I agree the officer could have handled himself better. BUT just think about how many other vehicles did what they were requested and were then on their way. Then this punk comes up trying to go viral on youtube to impress his lawschool buddies. Of course the fuzz is gonna get him to pull over to the side of the road until they figure out what his deal is. Why would anyone in their right mind NOT just do what the officer says?