Stripped of his rights or did he bring this on himself? (Cop Video)

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I would comply...there would be no need for an adjustment

 

People have the absolute right to challenge authority. However, when those attitudes are constantly left unchecked in bad areas, the results can come back to seriously put the officers and public in grave danger. For example, we are marked out with a large group of thugs in a bad area last night and when we were talking, just talking with one of them, the entire mob began to surround us and acting aggressively. Lets just say some words were exchanged and one was taken into custody, lawfully. If we did not respond the way we did, the next time that same mob is going to get closer to us and may act, putting us in harms way. Also, if they understand that we are not playing around when we tell them to do something as it pertains to a lawful situation, then we have not only protected ourselves but the community.

I'll give you another slant. At the beginning of my shift we made an arrest on an assault. The victim was one of the most rude juveniles I have ever met in my life. She was constantly cussing at us, cussing at her dad, her brothers....not following any directions. I dealt with her curse words and attitude for 20 minutes. I could have easily placed her under arrest because believe me, she was out of control. But I simply took it and directed her inside her home. She at one point almost slammed a door in my chest.

 

"John", I don't get the baiting. I really don't.

 

But giving them the authority, they may feel you didn't do to their specifications.

I don't want to live in a society where the leo becomes judge, jury and executioner.

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So in order to catch one drunk driver, we all have to get harassed by cops that do no wrong.....according to this place. Just call it what it is..... a revenue source.

 

Pulling someone over for 10 seconds and being questioned as to whether they have been drinking is harassment? I don't think so. That being said, feel free to challenge the state and federal government. I know the state and federal government's have deemed drunk drivers a serious problem and want us out working dui checkpoints. I have no problem with your thought process about feeling harassed. I am a firm believer in individual rights and can take a lot. However, you calling it a "revenue source" is crazy....that means you think cops are out there looking to give people tickets to make money. Not even close. For example, along with the dozens of calls I answered last night, I pulled over 5 or so cars, many of which I could have hammered with 15-25 mph over the speed limit....you know how many tickets I wrote? 0.

 

Cannot believe I agree with hooker on something.

 

Yes. For what reason did the cop ask the kid to pull over to the side? I'm not talking about the DUI checkpoint. I'm talking about after the kid refused to roll his window all the way down. The cop asked him to pull to the side and never told the kid why he was being detained.

 

Keep up the good debate guys. For me and I know this doesn't mean a ton, I really value people who try to protect their individual rights. We give them away to freely in this country and that is hurting us more than we will ever know. That being said, the kid in the video in my opinion went overboard. The officer should have simply said, "sir, please roll down your window so I can correctly complete my job, and then you will be on your way. If you don't roll down your window then I will assume you are attempting to hide the odor of alcohol and/or drugs and I will be forced to remove you from the vehicle."

 

I've seen sevral videos thats about teh same thing, peopel try'n to get some attention by being way more of a hassle than they have to be, all he had to do was roll his window down & answer the questions its over, some of these young kids just need the slobber slapped out of'em.

I understand its a violation of our civil rights but I dont think the cop was enforcing marshal law, simply just doing his job, how would you take it if some young PITA makes your job harder than it has to be just because he want some attention.

Just say'n.

 

BUT....who defines "ungrateful punk"

 

I wonder if this kid would act the same way if he needed help from that same LEO.

I wonder if by doing a checkpoint a Leo saves your life or one of your kids from a drunk driver.

The real issue is not the Leo or this smart *** kid, it's the fact we have a real issue with drunk driving and instead of acting like selfish punk, we should all be helping to solve this problem we have. We start by rolling down the damn window and treating Leo's with respect. All I hear is how times have change, can anyone imagine their grandfathers generation treating a Leo like this?

What's funny is the same people who state Zimmerman has the right to question Martin because he wanted too, are the same ones who are stating this kids rights were violated because the cop found his behavior suspicious.

Lol

 

Good point.... I guess there better be more than one...it is so tough..that is why I mentioned some power tripping cop ... That guy could have put himself in real danger by not just rolling down his window...

This thing is all over fb too....I noticed people who take the kids side are ones that have difficulty with any authority....

My kids saw this and said the 21 year old was being a jerk...

 

Citizen vs citizen

Government vs citizen

Different circumstances

 

Watched it the other day. Simply put, the kid brought this on himself. Regardless of how the cop acted, rolling your window completely down is not sacrificing your civil rights like some are making this out to be. If he did that, Im sure it would have turned out much different.

 

My understanding Hooker, is that the purpose of the sobriety check point is to snag drivers who have been drinking. Rolling down the window gives the cop a quick assessment of the driver's condition. If you won't, or can't, roll down the window, I guess you'll have to pull over, get out and demonstrate to the cop that you haven't been drinking. I have no problem up to that point. Having verified that the driver had not been drinking, the cop should have just sent him on his way. Everything the cop did after that was completely unprofessional and dead wrong.

 

Keep telling yourself that hooker.

Here's the difference, if a Leo approaches Martin that night he lives.

I do not view Leo's as "the gov", they're my fellow Americans. They are part of my community, I coach with a few of them.

 

Ummm...they are still local government. They have power over the common citizen when they are on duty.