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Stripped of his rights or did he bring this on himself? (Cop Video)

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  1. tfox

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    Sorry if I missed your thoughts on the officer earlier in the post. Quite honestly, I was not willing to read 20 pages. It seems that we agree that the officer was out of line and let the kid get the best of him. Seems like a rookie mistake to me. In no way did I think this was grounds for a federal case, but it is a prime example of things that the LEO's do every day that ruin cases. When they let their emotions get involved, they overstep their authority and "bad guys" walk. Some of them hate it when average citizens know their rights and exercise them as evidenced in this video. Like everything else, a few bad apples screw it up for the rest. I did enjoy your response, even if I am too old to catch the music references. lol
     
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    I'm from a military family I follow you and I'd roll my window down too, not real sure why that matters. You keep making light of the kid but the LEO is the one who truly looked a mess in that clip. LEO's should go out of their way to avoid these situations and I'm sure they are trained to. Despite what anyone may think I have no disdain for police, these days I almost never have any dealings with them like most folks. I guess because of that I don't look at them as protecting my family 24/7 or as authority figures in my life. I recognize no authority of them over me if I'm not in violation of a law. They have the authority to enforce laws and they provide a vital community service but that doesn't put them above the citizens they are "Protecting and Serving".

    Some of this thread reminded me of this:

    " I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way."
     
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    Both parties were being jerks. I dont agree with either party. Kid is a ****** and officer over reacted. The cop had the right to suspect the kid was on domething because who in their right mind whobisnt hiding something just cooperate. Roll down the damn window and get on with your night. Simple.
    I was in this situation once when I got pulled over due to my license plate lamp shining backwards at 130 am. Probably not a good reason tobpull me over but it was on a friday night so I understand. He then saw a gun case in my back seat of my truck and asked to see it to make sure it was unloaded. I gladly let them check and I was on my way. It was my right to not let them and make them get a warrant but I had nothing to hide and dont feel like I lost my rights by allowing them to check. Some cops are ****s but then again so are some teachers doctors so on and so forth. Lets move on already.
     
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    BRAVO!!!!! GREAT post! Dan....where were you 50 pages ago :D
     
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    Well new I don't respect Leo's because of authority, I respect the job and the person. Just about respecting people, I don't care if they are checking me out at Kroger. Just about respect
     
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    Wasnt going to get in on this but it seemed like the cool thing to do. Its scary to think that i belong to this kids generation. Ugh.....
     
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    Makes sense.
     
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    I don't know how many checked out my link but it appears there were several kids that claim to be libertarian with cameras seeing if something like this would happen.

    Goods news is that apparently this was the only one that was youtube worthy:D bad news is it shows how poorly this leo handled the situation if all his partners were able to stay off youtube.:what:

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    Why are breathalyzers not administered outside of bars at night free of charge instead of two blocks away in a road block? I see this all the time all across the country, especially on college campuses.... Why not try and prevent drunk drivers instead of catching them red handed?
     
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    I don't know, tfox. It seems to me that if this officer was the "worst of the bunch" then law enforcement did very well on the 4th. :tu:
     
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    That's a really good question Trevor, and it's one I don't have the answer to.
     
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    That was the point

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    because then you don't get their money
     
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    Ah,... got it. I guess I misunderstood what you were trying to say. :)
     
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    My guess would be not to many bars would want the drop in business. The few late night bar/clubs we have I'm this area have cops around every night but they're there in case a fight breaks out not wat h who stumbles out and gets in drivers seat. And if you gt outside of the bigger city and to little local bars in rual areas most little towns don't have cops and theres only one maybe two county cops on duty for the entire county.

    But it would be more logical then waiting two miles down road.
     
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    Trevor come on man. So you want a bunch of cops to sit around and give drunk folks breathalyzer tests outside of bars? To prevent dui's? How about this.....have the bar owners buy the equipment themselves or the folks who want to use them before driving. Problem solved and less cops involved in your business. Thats what you want anyways, less cops in your business. So you know what, go buy the equipment or in fact, just pay a guy to stand around and administer tests outside bars.

    Yes we are trying to catch dui drivers red handed. My goodness why wouldn't we? I am also trying to catch armed robbers red handed, crack dealers, people who abuse children......I dont get it.

    That is absolutely a ridiculous comment.

    And to you Hooker, about the money, that is a rotten comment as well. Who is getting the money for a dui stop? It sure isn't the cops, trust me.
     
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    I am going to guarantee you haven't see that all around the country. Give me a break.
     
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    I have seen breathalyzers in bars(a Hooters in VA), didn't seem to be deterring too many folks. One table made a game of it, the person with the lowest BAC payed the tab. Sketchy.

    Cops standing around bars giving breathalyzers wouldn't prevent drunk drivers it would simply kill business at that location and waste the cops time babysitting "adults". Also, most of the time it isn't the cops job to prevent a person from breaking the law(unless life were like the movie Minority Report) especially in this kind of scenario. Most all of us who drink know when we've had too many and it is our own job to prevent drunk driving. I'd agree the DUI experience is a big money grab as far as lawyers, dmv, insurance rates, asap, car breathalyzers/monitoring fees, etc. However, the smallest part of that equation is generally the fine from the police(1st offense anyway) and the $$ part is supposed to be a preventitive measure as well. Nearly everyone knows what's at risk before they get behind the wheel.

    A pocket breathalyzer can be purchased relatively cheaply for someone so inclined.
     
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