Stripped of his rights or did he bring this on himself? (Cop Video)

Well dude I am hoping the next time you get pulled over you keep that window up, be sure to keep the Bill of Rights with you, so you can show the LEO just before he tazes you.

 

Sorry, I should have said SB 5 in there, you are right.

 

I already told you, I wouldn't do that - but I do protect our rights. If a cop tazes someone for enacting their Constitutional rights the cop would obviously be disciplined or even fired and a civil suit would ensue. Don't be silly with this nonsense.

 

Why would you not protect your rights?

You mean to tell me, you would roll down your window? George Washington just rolled over in his grave

 

Your right rolling down your window has nothing to do with illegal search and seizure. By rolling down your window you do not automatically consent to the search of your car or give up your god given American rights. You simply roll down the window.

 

A right does not mean you have to enact it all the time, everytime, or zero times - there is no mandatory usage. It is our right to enact it if I want to or not. That's what a right is. Why don't you do that Google thing you like so much and look up "rights".

 

Well I have lost all faith in you spear, you were my write in candidate for 2016

If you won't protect us from unauthorized and illegal attempts from Leo's to roll down our windows who will?

 

My head hurts

 

Yes it most certainly does. The officer can communicate just fine with the window being open 2 inches, one foot, or all the way. The 4th amendment gives us the expectation of privacy. Cops must have legally sufficient reason to believe a search is necessary, not rolling a window all the way down doesn't give them reason to do what the cop did.

 

Ok this is just crazy, a cops life is on the line. Put your self in the cops shoes, he has no clue what could be in the seat next to him.
Second we all know he was hiding the camera, he could careless about the 4th amendment.

 

Rights can be valued differently by different people, who are you to say something is minor so therefore it makes it an irelevant right? Again, I refer back to Benjamin Franklin "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

And because you are being a smart***, don't you mean write in? I've lost faith in you as a voter if you don't know the difference between right and write or bored and board.

So the cops should just detain us all and search our body and car at every checkpoint and every traffic stop just to make sure. Yeah, right. See quote above.

 

Well you got me, you win I am dropping out of the race.

I guess I have to roll up my window now.

 

You went crazy again on the last paragraph, lol

Ben lived in different time, someone on a bender could not get in a 4000 lb car and take out entire family. I live in reality, not 1776.

 

The LEO did not use that as a reason to search the vehicle. That was the reason the kid was pulled over to the side simply because not rolling down your window all the way at a DUI let me say that one more time DUI check point is suspicious for obvious reasons. The reason the car was searched which I am no way saying was legit was the dog hitting on the window. Indicating most likely in this case some type of narcotics.

 

The Bill of Rights applies today just as much as the day they were written or signed into law. The idea that fewer liberties will give more security scares me today just as much as it scared the founding fathers, otherwise he wouldn't have said it.

I'm not sure if you are not understanding or if you are just prodding, and it doesn't matter at this point. A right doesn't mean you have to enact it. It's your right to enact it or not. I'm ok with agreeing to diagree on the whole thing. I'm glad we debated, even if we think the other is bat crap crazy and totaly wrong on this topic, at least we get a feel on what other people think and believe in. Neither of us get a prize for winning or even competing in this debate. Germ, I have no ill will toward you, we probably have a zillion other things in common.

 

Dude I was giving you kudos for your catch on my write snapfu, that's it.

Rights should always be upheld IMO, we should to treat rights like we're going through a lunch line, picking and choosing what we want or when we use them.
This kid was not protecting any rights, he was looking for 15 mins of fame.

 

Sorry, I misunderstood your post then. I don't disagree with anything in your post other than he wasn't protecting any rights. He was protecting his rights but only to get the 15 minutes of fame, which I agree wouldn't be the right reason to enact them - which is why I was saying I wouldn't do what he did.

Going to bed. Nice chat, hope we aren't bitter towards each other in other threads.

 

Late to the party.

Kid was baiting, legal or not, it was morally wrong (IMO).

Like my brother said..."FTP" is big around here and it is sooooooo sad. Lets just get rid of police and have chaos, that sounds great...smh...

 

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I kinda find it funny how far apart the opposites are in this discussion. Yea this is a bs situation and pretty much made both the kid and the cop out to be **ckheads. Yes the cops where doin their job and may or may not have saved a bus load of kids but to justify the cop loosing his cool because of the what ifs is ridiculous. Ultimately the cops should be professional most of the time and for all the people saying well fine maybe cops shouldn't do stuff like this and just let everyone run wild, honestly I'd rather have that than every cop running around being a *ick because someone pissed them off. Quoting tombstone, since just watched it ha, "Having that badge don't make you right." Now obviously I'm not saying you should rebel against every cop you run into but it amazing the people on here that are willing to go along with whatever jus because your dealing with a officer.

Also something else I keep seeing talked about is the constitution and this not being 1776. Regardless of what year it is those are the basic rights for anyone and you cant pick and choose which ones you decide to follow or agree with because of the date or situation. Lots of people have died to keep that very thing and I know when I took the oath in 2002 to protect the constitution there was nothing said about it being how I saw fit or how it applied to things in the present.