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Stolen Valor. Make this go viral

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Slugger, May 26, 2014.

  1. MnHunterr

    MnHunterr Legendary Woodsman

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    Why would I bash our great services that risk their lives for us to live free?

    It's just something I've been thinking of today and its a legitimate question.

    Substitute any crime with abuse, I was using it as an example.


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  2. Slugger

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    I already stated that it wasn't my writing
     
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    Is there any reason to believe military folks commit more abusive crimes than the general public? No, there is not, therefore I do not see the point of your question. It seems as though you are looking to bash military folks.
     
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    We do....they come to me in the brig and get whats coming to them.
     
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    burn ward? Im currently at Ft Sam in a behavioral health class. Curious to what this is.
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Another part of this thread that bothers me is people trying to make the good people out to be bad and the perpetrator out to be some "poor guy" who is getting bashed. That attitude is becoming more prevalent and it disturbs me. Maybe it is because I grew up a Marine's son, but I find a Marine lying about his/her accomplishments makes me sick. It devalues others.
     
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    Yea the army just wears their PC's backwards and doesn't know how to IP a uniform. So much for attention to detail. Couldn't hack it in the Corps if you get butt hurt over this.
     
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    Service men/women do not commit more abusive crimes than the general public. I'm just wondering why people don't get upset when you hear of a service man/woman who commits a crime and casts a bad image on the branch they are enlisted in.


    I'm sorry, but your assumption that I am bashing those who serve is absolutely incorrect and I apologize if I offended anyone by my comments.


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    They get handled by being sentenced in a military court and placed in the brig.
     
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    dmen Die Hard Bowhunter

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    There was a guy in our unit who beat his wife. He had to stay in the barracks waiting for his punishment. He was put in a room with two people who did not like him. They beat the living crap out of him. His face was a mess, and he still got NJP. My point is we policed our own.
     
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    You mean nobody pretends to be in the Army? Ha that's about right. Ha
     
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    "The Army’s rate of child abuse was 4.5 cases per 1,000 children for 2011. The civilian rate was 27.4 per 1,000 children, according to the Children’s Bureau of the Department of Health and Human Services."

    The rate of crime in the military is normally lower than in the civilian world because the Uniform Code of Military Justice where the law permits a General Article where even if you cannot be convicted under any other military law you can be prosecuted under the General Article which is a catch all.

    But once again this is not the "What I think is wrong with the Miltary" thread, it is the Stolen Valor thread.
     
  13. Chris1982

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    Unless things changed in the last couple of years, the hospital there, Brooke Army Medical Center, is a major care provider for badly burned wounded warriors. With the base realignment moves that have been happening over the last few years my information may be outdated, I know it was correct up to at least 2010.
     
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    Double post: stupid phone ha
     
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    Really? Couldn't hack it in the corps? You're hilarious...is this turning into an army vs marines thing? Stay on task motard. I was obviously joking about nobody in the army lies about their service, so you, sir, got butt hurt. Have you served in a war zone? Just curious??? If so, where?
     
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    well this escalated quickly...lol
     
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    i'm not entirely sure it's true when you say people don't get upset when they hear of a serviceman/woman committing a crime...there are plenty of people who get upset...
     
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    I know people get upset... But I havent seen people starting Facebook pages, threads, etc trying to publicly humiliate them. Asking where their hometown is to post articles in their newspapers. All that. That's what I have been thinking about today.

    Maybe I just don't have exposure to it... And this is the first time I've seen someone being called out and publicly humiliated for it.

    I'm not arguing or bashing anyone... Just stating what I've been thinking today.


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  19. Chris1982

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    I think the reason you don't see Facebook pages condemning abusive servicemen is that child abuse is a universally frowned upon activity and there is no reason to specifically target offenders based on their occupation. Stolen Valor is of significance primarily to the armed forces/veteran community so it makes sense that they would specifically target those who commit offenses.
     
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    Yes you are right. Didn't know what you meant. I will be working over in the VA hospital in their inpatient ward helping out our vets for the next month
     

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