I'm just not the sort that gets all butt hurt about most things, and certainly not things words would change, some times the hands on approach is more fitting, and productive, and some times there is a price to pay for my methods, and most instances its money well spent. And I can say so far, no one has ever repeated the offence that riled me to action in the first place, so my methods appear to be more effective the whine approach, just sayin.
That still doesn't change the fact that the bolded text should be included... That does nothing to get the point across regarding his scumbag ways of lying regarding his so called "service". All I am trying to say... Not arguing for the guy or anything. Thank you for your service!
When a person joins the military, the first thing that happens is that person quits being a me and becomes a we. It is not about the individual, it is all about the squad, platoon, company, battalion, etc. The team mentality goes as far as when one screws up it is considered a failure for the whole unit. If one brings disgrace on the company, the whole company is frowned upon. However, when the unit or a person in the unit does good, it is good for everyone. It is this way for a reason and to have someone out there disgracing the military, a branch of the military, or a unit it hurts everyone who raises their hand and takes that oath. I would not expect someone who has not served to understand.
Fake Army Ranger Caught By Real Soldiers - YouTube aside from the expletives (please excuse), the words expressed by the angry fellas are a pretty representation for why folks would be upset by posers.
I can think of a few veterans that have done far more to disgrace the military, than post a couple fraudulent pictures, I just don't see why airing dirty laundry out for all to see, is the best way to deal with those whom bring shame to any one group.
I understand that as most people do but it would also be common for situations to be handled internally and not out in the public arena. I think we all agree he needs to be dealt with but there are channels. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
This is my thought on the topic... Why aren't you publicly humiliating the thousands of service members who are accused of abusing their wives/children, etc, etc. IMO wearing a fake medal is meaningless compared to things such as abuse.... Now I have never served so I don't have a say in the matter, but it just seems crazy.
Since he enjoys posing as a Purple Heart recipient they should send him, in his b.s. uniform, to perform custodial duties at the burn ward at Fort Sam Houston or some other military hospital. I'm pretty sure 30 days or so of that humiliation would change his ways.
30 days or maybe 3-5 years would set a precedent for any others who might give this kind of fraud any thought, and this guys obviously not the sharpest axe in the shed, so maybe after a couple years of this service he might just "get it".
Stolen valor is oftenti.es people who aren't in the military or irr. It is hard to handle those internally. Military does however handle the other things you mentioned Internally and they are shamed and unacceptable Conduct.
The guy messed up, bad...but instead, why not send it through the chain of command? Your message will be heard.since he's IRR he can't still get the boot, with dishonorable discharge. No need to embarrass his friends and family. I guess I would have taken the OP a little different if you didn't include any of his personal problems and activities. This whole thing is being handled very childish manner. Being in the military also means carrying YOURSELF in a respectful and honorable light. Which you failed miserably at, in my mind. And for a 1st Sgt to jump on the band wagon, speaks volumes. It may give this guy a bad name, but it also hurts the Corp. glad I was army and nobody in the army does anything like this
Odd the "fake" soldier was in better shape than the "real" soldier? I agree that we've seen much worse actions from military members. We almost give them a 'free-pass' to commit violent acts and chalk it up to PTSD, and those soldiers are staunchly defended by their fellow servicemen/women. You want to see some "stolen valour", watch this. The Invisible War | Documentary about Rape in the U.S. Military | Independent Lens | PBS
Free pass huh? Interesting view point. The video wasn't to illustrate physical fitness standards. Who knows, maybe the real ranger isn't able to work out for whatever reason or actually is in shape, but a bigger build. You're missing the point if that's your focus. The video was meant to highlight the emotional and often times psychological connections we have to honors and symbols in the military. I don't the guy to slugger is referring, but I can empathize with the way slugger feels. Regarding to your movie reference, I have seen it. I believe that victims should come forward and report, and predators should be convicted and punished. What was your point though? That all military have been given a free pass in general? That we military commit much more heinous acts than the general public? I certainly hope that wasn't your point.
I just find it interesting that us as a society thinks more of a man wearing fake medals than the wives/husbands/children being abused. Why do we not see more people trying to publicly humiliate those abusers who cast a bad image on the services? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
How is bringing attention to a perpetrator of honor stealing belittling abuse? I have no problem calling out a child/woman abuser anytime. However, this is a thread about stolen valor not an abuser.
