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  1. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Or these types of articles....look at this headline. I swear man. I really do not like Trump much at all but this is crazy. Like he had or has anything to do with our countries racial make up....

    Framing words and with an agenda. ...modern day "news".



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  2. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Or this
    ...this crap is out of control. Seriously they would hate me as a principal. I would never budge for any racist group. It's like it is becoming cool to be like this student group. People think they are living in a movie and social media is real life. I feel sorry for today's kids.



    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/0...ical-after-white-student-lands-lead-role.html

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    Minorities, majorities, yak yak, yak...disgusting. These people are the real racists, Americans are Americans, not minorities or majorities or whatever special interest group. The democrat/liberals biggest goal is to divide and conquer the American people....that's the way to rule the country, in their opinion.
     
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    I think it should be concerning to all on the Left and Right; when the Deputy Director of the FBI is forced to resign after an OIG investigation into his signing of a FISA warrant to spy on opposition political party operatives has proven that said Deputy Director and his staff knowingly withheld substantive information that the "dossier" used as the main supportive probable cause was

    A) not only paid for by a Clinton Campaign/DNC /Obama for America funded contractor FusionGPS- especially when said Deputy Director's wife is a political ally and recipient of $700,000 in campaign contributions from members of Clinton Inc - but also

    B) the allegations contained within said "dossier" were and remain almost entirely unproven (as stated by then-Director Comey under oath in open Congressional hearings.)

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

    ^none of the facts in the article above are in dispute. Read it; it really is mind blowing.

    Furthermore, as alleged in the Sen. Grassley's criminal referral; Steele's primary sources for said allegations were Clinton confidants w/in and outside of the State Dept, including (redacted/likely Sid Blumenthal) and Russian intelligence operatives w/in Russia.

    Those are facts alleged under oath in a criminal referral made by sitting Senators. They didn't make them up. The Committee arrived at these conclusions after reviewing bank records and electronic communications to and from to all parties; the disclosure of which to the Committee only came about after being ordered by a federal judge. Fusion GPS and Steele actually went to court to hide the paper trail.

    These are facts - not spin. I'm not saying Carter Page isn't kind of slimey. Heck, General Flynn and Popodopolous as well. But based on what we now know it appears that people in the highest levels of the previous administration conspired to initiate an illegal investigation into the incoming administration.

    Furthermore, the special counsel investigation was initiated by illegal leaks of stolen classified/confidential information by then-fired Director Comey - who could have been indicted immediately after he publicly acknowledged doing so. He violated the following statutes in so doing-

    18USC 641 - - Public money, property or records
    Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof (up to 10 years in prison)

    18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
    (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information— subject to 10 years in prison

    Again, facts not opinion. Comey admitted to doing so.

    Yes, I am partisan. But the law is the law and justice should be blind; which is why we were founded not as a nation of men but of laws.
    I would feel the exact same way if I learned that the current administration initiated illegal wire taps on Hillary and the DNC based on PizzaGate rumors "validated" by Alex Jones, Michael Savage, and NewsMax and secretly paid for by the RNC, Koch Bros and Trump Inc.

    The fact remains that the previous administration corrupted and weaponized every cabinet department it could (EPA, Treasury, DOI, DIA, and finally the DOJ) and marginalized and demonized those it could not (DHS, most of DoD) and even CREATED a new Cabinet level administration (CPA) expressly designed and chartered to shake down any corporate entity that didn't Bend the Knee.

    By far, THE most corrupt administration in the history of our country.
     
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    So basically Steele was paid by the Clinton Campaign and OFA, and later by the FBI to provide another veneer of "legitimacy" to solicit dirt on DJT from Clinton confidants and Russian intelligence (disinformation specialists) and then leak said information to OFA and Clinton campaign funded "journalists" to use as an "echo chamber" to "legitimize" the "intel" and make it part of the public debate and a multi-sourced basis for further investigation...sound familiar?

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/22/dc-reporters-cant-get-enough-of-ben-rhodes-echo-ch/

    or for a more left-wing outlet

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-iran-deal-narratives/?utm_term=.04e399918069

    just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean I'm not right...especially when there's a paper trail and they admit to having done it before.
     
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    While we're on the topic of posting headlines. I didn't click on this to read it... But How much of this do you think is true? I'm assuming it's been twisted and mostly lies.


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    I know that when I was a kid, every pond and lake around here was full of frogs and crayfish. Today, very few if any crayfish anywhere and the frogs are only in ponds that are away from ag field runoff. I don't think its a coincidence. I know that in the past, whenever I would email my Congressmen, I would receive some form of reply. When I ask them why our local cancer rates are so high and wonder about the safety of our drinking water, I get absolutely zip for response. Nothing. In my opinion, that tells me that the truth would be way too expensive.
     
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    Massive scare tactics. I find that to be likely at like .00001%.

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    Scare tactics in the sense that they would cut off funding for cancer.....have no doubt something like Round Up is carcinogenic.
     
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    Oh jeeze, lets go around to food labels and look at the additives and preservatives that have been alleged to cause cancer and any number of other things. For each one there are studies showing they test positive as a causal agent and then just as many studies that show they don't...which one's do you buy?
    Any ag chemicals can be dangerous for sure and they may be contributing to the cancer problem but I think most of this crap about roundup is a bunch of overblown BS. Liberals hate big ag...unless it's their own big ag. They hate it that big ag is feeding the world population which they see as a problem and want to stop. They want to see all farmers broke and food grown by a peasant class that liberals own. That's all it's about. The EU labeled RU a "probably carcinogenic" because they couldn't prove it was and they tried...oh how they've tried. When that failed they resorted to labeling it probably carcinogenic without proof. The crazy a**ed liberals here were right behind them as always. Sooner or later the liberals will buy a lab powerful enough to find a direct link (read that as "make up" a direct link).

    Here's a clue for all the anti roundup people. The older chemicals farmers will go back to are way more dangerous than roundup. Some were ingredients in agent orange.
     
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    Who needs conspiracy shows and books, I can read great stuff here.
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    I'm trying to find a good movie on Netflix after watching all the episodes of Travelers and Altered Carbon.

    One of the "Genres" offered was, "Violent Movies Featuring a Strong Female Lead".

    This crap never ends and is getting hilarious. Simply hilarious.
     
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    I just found/started watching altered carbon. 3 episodes in and really like it so far....minus all the full male frontal...
     
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    Brother. .....you will be amazed at some of the eye candy coming your way. Holy smokes!

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    Just starred episode 4
     
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    Lt Ortega for President! Holy crap!

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    shoes dropping everywhere....

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nd-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html

    Sept 2 2016, Strzrok texts his sidepiece Page that he was preparing a briefing for Comey to present to Obama on the status of the Clinton email investigation because "potus (Obama) wants to know everything we're doing."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-with-trump-not-obama/?utm_term=.14ee4489c6ef

    In June 8 2017 Congressional testimony, Comey claimed that "“I spoke alone with President Obama twice in person, and never on the phone. Once in 2015 to discuss law enforcement policy issues and a second time, briefly, for him to say goodbye in late 2016. In neither of those circumstances did I memorialize the discussions.”

    ...soo did he or did he not brief POTUS on the email investigation?
     
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    The media finding people to say Trump shutting down the Gov't unless he gets the funding for the wall is deplorable. Really? Trump offered DACA to get funding and approval yet no give on securing the border.
     
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    I think people are catching on that a shutdown has very little impact on their day to day lives. Especially short term. Other than USG employees not getting paid on time, people barely notice (unless you pull an Obama and weaponize it by making it as painful as possible.) Looks like the Senate is moving forward divorcing any immigration reform topics (inc. the wall) from the budget. They're working on a 2 year plan which would be nice rather than running into the same buzzsaw right before the midterm 2018 elections.

    Unless expressly forbidden in the budget, the executive branch could always move funding around within the DHS/DOD budget to cover the initial costs of the wall. $12-15 billion is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things...None of the wall talk really matters short term anyway- any wall construction will be hung up in the courts (California already filed lawsuit) for months/years.
     
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    President Obama, April 10 2016- "I do not talk to the attorney general about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line."
     

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