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Stabilizer Suggestions

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by BigStick, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. BigStick

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    I've been shooting the Fuse 6" Axium for a couple seasons and I just don't think it is offering me much in the way of stability or even vibration dampening for that matter. I shot my bow with a buddy's Octane 11" stabilizer with the added weights on the end and like the difference it made at holding steady. Most people say that the Octanes are just for show or they offer little in the way of vibration dampening, but I didn't feel much difference between it and the Axium.

    I'd like to get something in that longer range 8-10", staying somewhere around that 7-9 oz. weight range. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I know the B-stinger is supposed to be good, but it just looks dopey.

    I've looked at these two so far:
    Fuse Carbon Blade Hunter
    Octane
     
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    that fuse one looks pretty nice
     
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    i did purchase the 3 inch one today and will be trying it tonight. the 5 inch seemed very heavy for long periods of shooting.
     
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    Which 3" one, the fuse axium, the carbon blade?
     
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    Check out stokerized. I use a 10" standard hunter and it is great with stability and vibration dampening.
     
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    I like the look of stokerized and centerpunch, but I can't justify spending $60+ on an acrylic rod with some hardware on it.

    I've got a place where I could get some acrylic rod for cheap, but anybody have any idea where I could get the hardware like centerpunch uses?
     
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    Check out the NAP Apache stabilizer. Just got mine and I love it.
     
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    Yep! The Apache is 8" long and can be converted to 5" by unscrewing the carbon off the end. Wicked looking on a bow as well!
     
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    I'll have to find one so I can try it out.
     
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    Find one you like that has good noise reduction. They are useless for stabilizing out of treestand and, IMO, most are useless for real stabilizing period.
     
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    Wow! I guess the millions of people who buy stabilizers are wrong!
     
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    Just the ones that think they are stabilizing their bow when hunting out of a treestand ;) .

    Marketing sells bows to millions of folks based on speed yet 250 fps will pass through any deer on the continent. They also sell stabilizers to hunters that will be pointing down when shooting out of a treestand. You can buy what marketing sells you or you can buy what you actually need. Freedom of choice.
     
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    I was running through this in my head, and I'm not sure I understand how a stabilizer wouldn't work in a stand. A stabilizer would offer benefits regardless of the angle of the bow. If you change the angle of the bow to shoot downwards, I would think it would work even better, because the force of gravity to torque the bow downwards is lessened. The ability of the stabilizer to resist hand torque would, as far as I can tell, never decrease.

    I don't purport to be an expert, though, so please educate me if I've missed something.
     
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    I disagree that the number one function of a stabilizer should be noise reduction as well. The majority of noise is created by the string moving through air and the oscillation of it after the shot. The most effective dampening would happen closest to the source of the vibration. The farther away from the source of the vibration you get the less effective the dampening measure would be.

    Again, this is just my understanding, feel free to point out anything I've missed.
     
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    Once you start pointing down, the weight is no longer out in front of the bow where it is supposed to be although many target shooters have additional stabilizing out to one side also but we won't use that for this scenario.

    To get stabilization you find the proper weight you need to get the stabilization you want. When you start pointing down the effect the weight out front has becomes less because it is no longer parallel to the ground as it was when initially setup. To take it to an extreme think about how much effect a stabilizer would have if you were pointing straight down.

    Here are some pictures of a bow with stabilizers that actually stabilize:

    http://forums.bowhunting.com/showthread.php?t=20958
     
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    The oscillations cause the bow to vibrate and the noise dampening stabilizer reduces those vibrations. Not so important on todays bows, especially ones that use a string dampener, but it can help. IMO, I woudn't, and don't, use a noise dampening stabilizer either but folks like them.

    Any "hunting stabilizer" won't stabilize **** so you may as well have it do something useful and that would be noise dampening. If it isn't noise dampening then it really has no function at all except to look cool but I don't think looking cool should be the number one reason to get one. There are better things to spend money on that will actually improve shooting and noise reduction.
     
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    If a stabilizer gives you confidence in your shot then, by all means, get one you like. Confidence in your shot is what mattters in the end.
     
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    I'll have to try shooting without mine to see if there's any significant increase in noise. If there's not, I'd love to ditch mine. It's always in the way.
     

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