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Spook Spann charges.

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Dan, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. Christine

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    So he only had one tag?

    I can't remember the details and I'm too lazy to go back and read all this. :)
     
  2. tynimiller

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    He KNEW he only had a landowner tag...would take a non-existent IQ to know he didn't own the land he was hunting. As far as the penalties go I'd say hit people hard and you won't have to hit hard often...just my .02.
     
  3. Krohboy

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    It is a draw in that zone and he did not draw and bought his landowners tag. He knew at the time it was not valid where he shot his deer. Pretty cut and dry if you ask me


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    I think its funny he referred to people as "Spook Nation". Who knew this guy had his own nation? Who are these people of Spoon Nation?

    I am quite intrigued.
     
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    Are they called Spookians?
     
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    A very good question. These are the things I think about.
     
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    Someone just sent a video to the intro of his show. Apparently, its called Spook Nation. This is hilarious. :lol: This can't be real. Is it real? No, it can't be.

     
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    Purely hypothetical .... This dude owns a farm, he also leases the farm next to is. He applies to a land owner permit as is allowed to because he qualifies as a property owner...kills the deer next door on the lease uses his land owner tag...


    Ok my question is who's Cheerios did this guy piss in to get this to a level of more then a slap on the wrist?
     
  9. tynimiller

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    No need to piss in anyone's cheerios. He bought a landowner tag and shot the deer on land he didn't own. Land in which someone with a legal drawn or purchased tag should have been allowed to make the legal harvest.
     
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    "Ears like a hawk."

    lol Just think there were probably several people involved with the making and approval of that opening song(shakes head as faith in mankind diminishes even more).

    It said he ended up purchasing the land(I didn't see if that was before the kill or after). If that were the case is he supposed to buy another land owner tag for that particular piece of property?
     
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    Maybe and maybe not, a lease might be considered a legal Entity and who is to say the specifics of the lease do not preclude anyone one other then the lessor may harvest a deer on the property. As you can see below the online website for the Kansas DNR states that you contact the law enforcement to get an answer. This in itself lends ambiguity to my original hypothetical question.

    Now I am not implying that was the case with the Spook guy...I am just stating hypotheticals.....In five minutes of reading the original law I can see enough grey that any lawyer worth his salt would be getting my hypothetical client a slap on the wrist.

    Deer Permit Purchasing Guide
    Are you a Kansas resident? Yes
    No

    Do you own at least 80 acres of Kansas land? Yes
    No

    How is your property owned? Simple ownership with my name on the deed
    Partner-Managed LLC
    Manager-Managed LLC
    General Partnership
    Limited Partnership
    Trust
    Other Legal Entity

    Contact the Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks Operations office at (620) 672-5911 and ask for Law Enforcement
     
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    Playing grey areas is something I'd never do. In IN, landowner tags are only for the people whose names are actually on the legal deed and their dependants which also reside with them (kids who moved out or grown up wouldn't work). Perhaps Kansas needs to do something more like that. We also have a minimum acreage too like them.
     
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    Oh yes, it's real. I've seen it. Probably one of the greatest intros of any show ever.
     
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    I wonder if Under Armour is going to drop him.
     
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    Now that I watched it...Guilty as charged. Hang him and post it on utube.
     
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    Man I'm glad NC doesn't have specific tags like land owner. The only thing I know of is farmers having permits to hunt year round. They can designate whom ever they want. It's not easy for them to get one though.

    We do have to get game land permits but, it sounds like it could be easy to get into trouble if a person doesn't really research.
     
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    Never heard of him... anyone can have a tv show, all you need is money... ;-) Talent is optional.
     
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    I'd never hear of him until this thread was posted, and regardless of the "courts finding" still think he was guilty.

    How the heck can they predetermine he was going to kill said buck at said location? That is the only way I could ever conclude, "you bought the wrong tag". He owns land and he leases land in the same area. He sure as heck knows his boundaries and the tag specifics that he possessed.

    Shows how when you have enough money to pay the lawyer you can get away with just about anything.
     
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    The reason he got caught is because the whole hunt is on.video and its a 200" buck if It was a 80" we'd never hear about it


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    From what I gather he owned already two farms in the unit, hence the landowner tag. He also leased the nextdoor farm with a contract for future purchase (which he now owns as well). While hunting his land he spotted the buck and stalked in on it crossing the property line from Owned land to leased land hence the illegal kill.

    Idk if the above is true, but if so you guys sure love to hang a guy for a minor infraction (if you can ignore the big rack involved). If the scenario explained above to me is true, he likely wouldn't even be charged for a doe.
     

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