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Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Sticknstringarchery, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. brucelanthier

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    I don't think you understand what he was saying, but that is not surprising. He is saying that your impact point using your 20 yard pin will be more than 6 inches below your aim point when shot at 40 yards.
     
  2. Sticknstringarchery

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    OK. What I was saying is using my 20yd pin at 40yd it hits 6" lower than my aiming point. That's what I was saying and he was saying there is no way it could be so I knew exactly what he was saying Bruce. So thanks for telling me what I understood. Yet again, you didn't understand what I was saying. Imagine that.
     
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  3. Sticknstringarchery

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    fixed that. Is it better now. Geez. I missed typed and I believe you know exactly what I was saying.
     
  4. brucelanthier

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    You never mentioned anything about a drop from 20 to 40 in your little diatribe, just how great your groups are.

    There's no way you only have a 6" drop from 20 to 40 yards with a 370 grain arrow at 296fps. But maybe with your superior technical and shooting skills I am guessing anything is possible.
     
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    Nope, most of the time I don't have a clue what you are saying. I am just wondering if you do.
     
  6. Sticknstringarchery

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    Most of the time?? Are you serious??
     
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    I just thought about something, I am shooting really light arrows right now so you guys wouldn't understand it hitting that closely. :lol: Yes, these are my 3D set up and I will be going to around a 400gr arrow before season. I guess if I was using an extremely heavy arrow right now, it would be hitting much lower. It was shooting a 370gr arrow at 296fps. It shoots really flat.
     
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    A 370 grain arrow shot at 296fps will drop 13" from 20 yards to 40 yards but, of course, that is a real arrow, not a magic arrow.
     
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    guess I am shooting magic ones then. :lol: wait, are you using math instead of real world testing?? Hmm, I think you questioned me doing that last time.
     
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    LOL Well, I have seen your math. I am guessing your "real world" testing is just as good.
     
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    I think Sticknstring would like to stand 40 yds from bruce and put his 20 pin on his bellybutton! :evilgrin:
     
  13. Sticknstringarchery

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    What is your problem Bruce? According to you in our last discussion, my math was fine, it was my lack of actual experience. Now you say it's my math. Which one is it, the one that makes you look better????????
     
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    Only if it had a nasty broad head attached to the end of it. :lol:
     
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    Yes that is what I am saying. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that his 6" was just a mistake.

    6" can quickly turn into 12" when group sizes are factored in and the 20 is just a touch off. Been doing this for 30 yards and have seen it many times over.

    My experience and my ballistics program says it cant be 6" lower using a true 20 at 40 yards @ 300 fps.

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    NO it wouldn't. A heavy arrow at 300 fps will shoot flatter than a light arrow at 300 fps. You can't defy the basic rules of physics.


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    He can. He has magic arrows. Plus, he shoots really good groups.
     
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    No worries, I take the shooter into account and figure I'm safe.
     
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    At what yardage does this start to occur? Please explain this one.
     
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    2" group at 20
    4" group at 40

    Low arrow at 20 is 1" low
    High arrow at 40 is 2" high
    That makes the 6" drop 9"
    If your 20 hits dead on at 25 then it is really sighted in at 25 and NOT 20.
    This easily is another 2" off

    Added up it equals 11" drop. Pretty close to the 13" that Bruce put out there and I was thinking 12" without running any numbers.


    Had this same argument many times over on these forums with many just like yourself and most of of them came back later and admitted they were mistaken.;)
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