So I posted a while back (when I had my new string and cables put on my bow) and asked if speed nocks really make a difference. General consensus was maybe a few FPS. Well, I shot mine without them for a while, even shot a tournament with them and it was shooting 286fps I am set up: 63lb, 29" and an arrow weight of 369.5 with a 2012 Hoyt Carbon Element RKT. So, I shot that set up for about three weeks and around 400 arrows. Thats probably on the very low side of the arrows shot. I took the old string and measured and marked for the speed nocks. In case anyone has wondered, the ones on an Element from the factory cannot be used again as they are one piece, solid with no split and is too small on the inside diameter to get it over the loops on the end of the string if you did get it un-crimped and off. So, I installed new ones a couple days ago and went out to shoot today. I still need to confirm my speeds through the chrono but, I know it has sped it up noticeably, very noticeably. I had to re-sight it in. All my pins had to be moved and they are now as close as they can get. After I had the new string put on, I had to space them a lot more than they were with the factory string. It is also little quieter. I will confirm with a chrono this week some time. Anyone up for a guess/bet as to how much FPS it picked up?? I say 15fps.
If your 20 moved alot then it was something other than speed that caused it. Im very interested to see how much speed increase there is. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
Did you have to have to change your pin gap when you changed strings? Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
No, a bow I tuned for a customer. To the OP. If you just slapped the nocks on I'm sure they are not in the optimal position, at least it's unlikely. I will usually stick two on, then leap frog them up and down until I find the sweet spot. After that I'll begin adding one more to either side of the two until the hit the law of diminishing returns.
Yes. I didn't chrono the bow factory. When I changed the strings and cables, I had to double the gap. When I installed the speed nocks, I had to tighten the gap. I had to re adjust the pin guard then tighten the gap on every pin. I cannot get my pins any closer on my 20, 30 and 40 pins. From 20-40 there is less than 6" of drop. I can't wait to see the speeds. I'm going to try to get up to the shop Tue after work.
Thats your best bet. I'm sure you'll gain a bit of speed if they're in the correct place, but the thing I noticed more than anything was the noise and vibe of the bow lessened dramatically once they're on there. I'm guessing that changing strings will cause you to have to make slight adjustments to the number of nocks and location maybe. The reason being that the new strings may be a different material and strand count from the factory strings. Here's a question for the experts on this. Is there anyway to play with the weight on the string without monkeying with nock sets? They're a pain to take off and I always worry about screwing up my servings doing so.
I am no expert but I have thought about how I would do something like this. I would crimp the nock(s) on tight enough but still allow it/them to slide. Then tie it/them in place with a piece of serving on either side. I don't know if that would work but I think it would be good for at least a couple shots. Anyway, that is what I do if I were to play around with the nocks.
If you have issues with pins being too close,just move your sight out. This will widen the gap. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
Would it be worth it to add these to a bow that did not come with them from factory. If so how would one know where to put them?
Its hard to get speed out of a solo cam, but not unheard of. IMHO, if your shooting 307fps I wouldn't even mess with it, your plenty fast as is.
I'm sorry I tried to let this go but this just isnt possible.Your 20 can not be set at 20 if this is the case and/or your not factoring in your group size.You will be MUCH lower than 6" low at 40 if your 20 is dead on at 20. Reafirm that your 20 is actually 20 and not 25 or so.Then shoot several arrows at 40 with your 20 pin and then see where your at.Just make sure your target is fairly large.
Considering I have less than an inch between 20 and 70 and between 20 and 40 I have a little less than 1/4" between those two pins. Less than 1/8" between 20 and 30 and 30 and 40. I put a tape measure on it just now. I was measuring groups. Shoot a group, mark the center and yes my 20yd groups are just as tight as my 40's are... 3 out of 4 arrows touch and yes that is consistent!!! But what do I know, I'm just the one who shoots the bow and can read a stinking tape measure. Please forgive me for being able to shoot groups that size and read a tape measure.
So to those of you who would like to know, I gained 10fps by adding the speed nocks. It went from 286fps (5 consecutive readings) to 296fps (8 consecutive readings). I am pleased.
Oh and Tfox, I have my range in my back yard laid out and marked EXACTLY every 10yd out to 100yd using a 300ft tape measure. When I sight in, I know I am dead on placing my front foot dead nuts on my marker. So, I know that my 40yds is EXACTLY 40yd.
Well, the range in my backyard is measured and my 20yds is exactly 20yds. You must measure differently in NC.
