Speaking of "looking good & playing good"... my new Destroyer

Very nice Greg. Too bad you couldn't get the "Testerosa" cams on it. That would complete the look.

 

Yep, Greg... the Limbdriver works awesome on the Destroyer; Vapor Trail's booth was right across the aisle at the ATA show and we set one up on it with no problems.

You just simply tie the d-loop cord off on the right side of the limb fork and run it straight down to the Limbdriver just as you would a split-limb bow... works like a charm!

As you know, this is the first of two that will occupy a couple stalls in mine... still trying to figure out the other color combo on my second 340. Was going to do them both in BlackOps, but I've been presented with a possibility that I'm thinking over...

Not sure why you say that... is it because it's different technology which you're not familiar with? After watching video footage that we rolled on a loop at our booth all week long of a competitor's bow in a Hooter Shooter with a laser affixed and watching how much torque was imparted to the riser as the bow was brought to full draw (moving the laser dot over 11.75"), and how much the FLX guard quelled that same torque and let the arrow leave the bow straight down the pipe with no fishtailing as the other exhibited ... it's pretty awesome.

I understand at first glance there appears to be a lot going on... if you look closely in one of the pics of mine, you'll see a Destroyer axle lying on the table. Once I was able to hold one and understand EXACTLY how the whole mechanism works, I have no fears or concerns. Everything that moves (which is only the axle just like on any other cam system) is encased in bearings no differently than all systems.

Both of my 340s will be making the trek to Colorado with me this year to be hauled up and down the mountains chasing elk.

Thanks, Bry... I'm sure I could have got Testarossa cams on it if I'd wanted, but I like the black on black with just the draw module providing the accent... that's why I never ordered in a Testarossa model before; it's a little "too" much for me.

Thanks, Walt!! It's about 99% back to normal now... probably be completely healed up tomorrow.

 

Actually, it's quite simple as Greg mentioned. Different from the "button" and the split limb type attachment, VT sends a nice little mount to keep your cord in place where you attach it. You use a "d loop" type of knot and you are in business. I have my LD just waiting on my 340 Black Ops.



I am not into the testarossa thing either Greg, but I wasn't aware of the option for the Destroyer, that's cool.

I am curious as to what you have up your sleeve for your second color combo. I have a great idea, but I am not sure if I am gonna let it out of the bag just yet as I don't know if I am stopping at a 340 and a Sentinel this year.

 

Now that is just one sweet looking bow!

 

Wow thats a awesome setup. Congrats on the bow.

 

That was to be expected... wow.

Greg the bow looks pretty stellar, jealousy setting in..... NOW! :D

 

not bad for a bowtech

 

X 2

 

I forgot about that little guy on the cam that is red. You're right, that is the perfect accent.

BTW, can you post the video you mentioned with the laser showing the torque? That would be interesting to see.

 

I don't have a copy of it... I just looked real quick to see if it was on the BowTech website but didn't see it with a cursory scan of the site...

 

One thing I'd like to add.......

This FLX guard works and cable guard torque is VERY real. It's magnified even more with a roller guard, but the roller guard allows you to get more preload to get additional speed out of a "smooth" draw cycle. That's the real purpose IMHO of the roller guard, and now with this FLX system.........there are no negative attributes to the roller guard. This system absolutely does what it's intended to do and it will show up in tunability and especially when people put fixed heads on their hunting arrows.

Short of a shoot through system, there is nothing on the market that eliminates torque as well as this system, and reality is that most hunters won't deal with a shoot through system...........so FLX in my opinion is a huge leap forward for BowTech and the hunting crowd.

Here is the video.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXI29xQtqwc

 

Good looking bow.....Nice meeting you at the ATA show Greg. Can't wait to get mine.

 

ON the surface......that video is astounding (admittedly). My question is (and I'm sure there's a good answer)......

If you're utilizing a mechanical release (on a non flex-guard equipped bow), does it matter if you have horizontal nock travel....if you've tuned your bow? You'd be able to shoot a stiffer dynamic spined arrow (I'm assuming) with this setup. But, what have you gained? Serious question.

What I found extremely interesting in the video....is the amount of archer's paradox imparted with the non flex guard bow. Are we to assume that center shot was set perfectly on the non flex guard bow? Fair question? You could introduce the paradox with a poorly tuned rest (I would think).

Interesting, for sure. The question (to me) is.....what do you gain?

I'm CERTAIN this is a nice shooting bow. I've shot it (blank bale distances). It has a "real" tuning fork-ish feel at the release (I can see the flex guard vibrating, after the shot). In reality, I also can't see anything detrimental coming from that (the arrow's gone). Just noticable.

Really good video, though. Thanks, in advance, for answering these questions. I can tell you.....if I was a competitor, I'd make my own.......IF I felt the rest wasn't set properly on the BT vid. I'd want to clear that up, for no other reason than perception.

Thanks, Matt.

 

I have 2 totally different plans for my Destroyers. I know you are aware of both of them. I'm sure the treatment I plan on giving the 350 is the one you are thinking over.

I already have special color strings, cables, slings, and accessories piled up waiting for both of mine :-)

Dan

 

Jeff, yes the bow in the video was set up with a properly spined arrow and was set to centershot.... I know the person who set it up and how it was done; spoke with him at length about it last week as we watchd the video play on our big flat-screen t.v.s overhead in our booth.

Let me ask you a question: Why do you think horizontal nock travel is any less important than vertical nock travel?

 

I never mentioned vertical nock travel. But as far as I can tell (videos), one system (roller guards) didn't seem to be better than the other. I'll ask.....does the flex guard improve on this (over the fixed rod)? I have no clue.

I'll watch it again, Greg. Maybe I'm clueless! I just find this intriguing. And, like I said....if I was a competitor, I'd have my own slo-mo in the works. The amount of horizontal travel (what I noticed) was astounding.

 

Or..........we could all shoot Oneida bows..............lol.

 

I'll show my ignorance, here.....

But, videos like this beg the question....

MY bowstring is centered on my limbs. If I were to make a perfect release (with a release aid), it would conceivably travel in that straight line. Seems "efficient", huh?

I KNOW there's a good reason why compounds aren't designed this way (likely speed). But, does the Destroyer's (and others....not singling them out) inherent design "more" demand this type of guard system?

Again...I'll learn something, here.

 

You're forgetting one important variable, Jeff... Just because the string is centered on the string and even if you use a release aid that releases the string perfectly in line and behind the arrow you've forgot about this:

 

Yeah, Dan... I'm mulling over what you think I am... sort of.

I'll tell you more later, got to head to martial arts training now.