Yeah they are a good camera. I love the wide angle shots, and have never had a camera with better night time IR. Overall bang for the buck I would put moultrie M-80 number 1. I had a issue with it one time, sent it in for repair, they sent me a brand new camera. was pleased with there customer service. I am looking at the 2013 Moultrie M-880. It is this camera with a few years development and improvements. it's also 8mp which this one is only 5. you can get them from dealers on ebay. Vergona outdoors is a ebay dealer i have bought at least 5 cameras from for myself or others.