I gotta ask, and this is strictly because I have no idea what is in this bill. But what is in here that is going to end of america as we all know?
This is what I know, noboby can give you an answer on exactly what is in the bill or how it will effect America. By it passing changed the how the goverment operates. They did not listen to the people, they just railroaded it through without a clue or care to what the American people want. IMO this = socializm at it's infantcy.
well i can say for sure that we as a country are BROKE we have no money, millions of uninsured americans will now be covered, where do you think this money to cover them will come from??? MORE TAXES on everything, take more money from businesses and working people, which in turn will cause a loss of jobs, loss of our rights as americans = downfall of america
Did we not just have the almost downfall of America caused by the Private Sector? Let's look at some key componets of the Bill 1. Insurance Companies cannot limit how much they payout(that sucks) 2. Insurance Companies cannot terminate coverage do to getting sick(Here comes socialism) 3. You musy purchase Health Insurance by 2014(I guess some will have to cut back on the booze and smokes.) I am reading the Bill, but it is 1990 pages long, there are items I like an ones I do not. I would have preffered just new laws with Oversight for Insurance Companies. My Prefernce is medical saving accounts with Health Insurance for major stuff. I hate to break it to some, but our Healthcare system has been a socialist system for awhile now. We all have been paying the price for the smokers, un-healthy, over weight and un-insured for sometime now. Small Companies and large have been paying the price, along with us too. Something needed to be done, is the bill perfect, nope. Is it a step in the right direction? I think so on the oversight of Insurance companies, but the rest that I don't know. Think about this, my neighbor the past week has sold all of his toys, camper, quad and some food plot gear. Come to find out his Son has a pile of medical bills he is helping him with. His son served in Iraq and Afan. Is this the best we can do for someone who put his life on the line for us? But hey this guy likes the current system Aetna, Ronald A. Williams: $24,300,112 Can anybody point out the items they do not like? The ones that are going to cause America to fall? I am just happy Rush will be leaving us
I can tell you that the U.A.W. is jumping for joy here at the Ford plant. The unions were on Obama's trail campaign and the unions got a tax break in this health care deal. Hmmm.....
Germ, wouldn't the VA have covered his son's medical treatment at little or no cost to him? Everyone is quick to blame the insurance industry, but lets not let the medical field off the hook, either. I had a MRI last year that took about 5 minutes and cost $4000. My dads chemo treatments were over $5000 a week, he took them for 8 months. Guess who got to pay the large share of those costs.....thats right, the health insurance companies.
BB, Insurance company's make a fine living In my parts and I'm guessing In most other places as well. Why Is It If someones a little late on their premiums they threaten to drop your ass but when It comes to getting money from an Insurance company It takes FOREVER, kind of like pulling teeth! That Irritates the hell out of me!!
My dad did 8yrs in the Navy. Yes. The VA WOULD cover his son's medcial bills. 32M people - uninsured. Suddenly, they are. Who's gonna pay for that entitlement program? That's +/- $150,000,000,000.00, annually. Let's just talk premiums for the time being. Who's gonna pay 'em? Projections are that private insurance premiums could triple (see who's paying, now?). So....what will a great number of individual and small business employees do? They'll drop their current insurance (that they can no longer afford) in exchange for the public option. THEN.....Barry has you where he wants you. This entire fiasco is ridiculous. This will (when added to the rest of the entitlement programs) cripple us as a nation. It'll bankrupt us. Would you buy US Bonds, right now? I wouldn't. Steve: Are you aware of how insurance companies make money? They're required by law to pay out 51% (at least) of the premiums they collect.
Not for what he needs, and have any of you been to a VA hospital? VA only covers if you go to a VA hospital as I understand it. You are correct about health industry, but IMO it's because of Insurance it's that way.
Well of course you have to go to a VA hospital. You say the above......and yet you seem to be in favor of Obamacare????? One ONLY needs to remember the conditions at Walter Reed a couple years ago. THAT was a prime example of US lead healthcare. That's what you're wanting for everyone?
So you don't trust the insurance companies to pay claims............but you trust Obama WILL pay on all claims? Where's the oversight for Ins. companies? Where's the oversight for the US Gov't?
having been to a VA hospital before, I wouldn't ever willingly choose to go back... if you want any idea of what govt run healthcare is like, the VA is the perfect example... thanks, i'll stick to private hospitals and doc's... edit - imho, the VA hospitals ~should~ be the best care in the land because of who they treat, our heroes and those that protect the very country we live in... given how reality is at the VA, I don't expect public healthcare to be better in any possible way...
I know that VA isn't the best option, but if it was a choice between bankrupting my family or going to the VA, well, I'd be willing to try the VA first.
If it's choice between your son living or dying then what? That's kind of the point, should someone be put in a situation to have to make that choice. I really have no dog in this fight, with my wifes insurance. The fact my Mother ran the doctors's office for 20+ years and he still does not charge me. The best we can do for a vet is take this medicore care or go bankrupt? We have to do better IMO.
Never said I did trust Gov to pay diddle. I ask for the third time now. What are the Items some here don't like, I want to make sure I read and understand those parts. It's called your vote
Germ, the VA is a federally funded healthcare system, offered to people who laid their lives on the line for all of us. And you are correct, it sucks. But somehow, I can't help but think the VA will look like the Mayo Clinic compared to the care you and I will be offered. I hope I'm wrong. I sell some health insurance (very little, so I'm not financially motivated to hate Obama care) but I'm not a fan boy of the health insurance companies. The underwriting is a joke and they don't want to pay for many procedures, no arguements from me on that. I still think the fix is in adjusting the cost of healthcare. The insurance premiums would also go down.
