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SO i switched to fixed blades and this is what happened....

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Maleko, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Maleko

    Maleko Weekend Warrior

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    Been shooting Rage 3 blades, i get bored easy so i bought some Muzzy MX4's.
    Screwed them on my arrows and was telling myself should i have done this so close to the opening day.

    So i draw back and bam. Right where i was aiming. What? something must be wrong. Shoot another bam. hit the side of the knock of the first arrow and split the side of the carbon arrow. Damnit....
    I cant believe these heads fly JUST like my rages and my field points.

    SO i shoot a field point , then a broadhead field point , broadhead etc... They are right on target.
    I knew my bow was tuned in for me, and i have had really good groups with my Rage practice tips and field
    points. After reading how a pain in the butt it can be to tune to broadheads, i was nervous,

    Did i get lucky by not having to adjust a thing? or does it happen? is it because i felt that my bow was dialed in?

    Im just so pumped i dont have to mess with my bow.

    Shot 20, 30 and 40 yrds with them. all hit where i was aiming.
     
  2. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Your bow is TUNED. Therefore all of those things that you described should happen. Good work on getting it tuned so well and good hunting.
     
  3. vectrix27

    vectrix27 Weekend Warrior

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    Your bow is dead nuts on. Tuned perfectly. I have never had my bow that on. I usually always have to move my sights a little when swapping from field tips to broadheads. Good job on getting it perfect.
     
  4. MHSfootball86

    MHSfootball86 Weekend Warrior

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    This shouldn't be the case. You shouldn't need to move your sight when switching between broadheads and field points. Your bow needs tuned better then you won't have to worry about moving your sight, just screw on what ever tip you wanna shoot and go to it.:tu:
     
  5. Maleko

    Maleko Weekend Warrior

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    Im pretty sure ive got it now. BUT, I can notice more movement in the arrow during flight than the field tips.
    BUT they hit right where i aim.

    So i assume its just the blades grabbing more air?
     
  6. MHSfootball86

    MHSfootball86 Weekend Warrior

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    More than likely. Think of it as airplane wings during flight and you have the general idea. The more surface area the more "steering" that can go on. Fletching helps correct broadhead steering but doesn't negate it hence the need for tuning.

    Also what kind of fletching do you have? My arrows are fletched with an offset that makes my arrows spiral like a bullet.
     
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    vectrix27 Weekend Warrior

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    I agree with you. I know it shouldnt but it did fly different when I shot Muzzys. I shoot expandables now and they shoot the same as my field points. I never really understood why the Muzzys didnt fly the same because I always have paper tuned my bow.
     
  8. Maleko

    Maleko Weekend Warrior

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    My New Muzzys hit the same place as my field points and my Rage 3 blade's.

    I just notice more movement during arrow flight thats all. should i be concerned about the movement during flight?
     
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    MHSfootball86 Weekend Warrior

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    Vectrix27
    Broadhead tuning is completely different. The image quality is crappy but its readable and here is the tuning guide itself. There is less surface on mechanicals to steer the tip. thats why they fly like your field points. The more surface area on your fixed just made your tuning issue more noticable. thats why there is broad head tuning.
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    I know this seems complex but i just started shooting this time last year and tuned my own bow this summer. You can figure it out and if you need help just post a question on here and i am sure you will get the help you are looking for
     
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  10. Maleko

    Maleko Weekend Warrior

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    The ones that came on the arrrow. I have Gold Tip Hunter pro's 7595. They are just 2 inch vanes.
    They have a very slight offset
     
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    MHSfootball86 Weekend Warrior

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    did it look like the arrow is spinning or flipping around aimlessly?
     
  12. Maleko

    Maleko Weekend Warrior

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    But is it a tuning issue if they are hitting right where i aim?
    i would say its tuned if they ( fieldtips ,rage and muzzy's) all impact the same place , no?
     
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    Oh, tough to say, maybe flipping and spinning.?? Ihave have to pay more attention tomorrow..
    What would the difference be?
     
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    MHSfootball86 Weekend Warrior

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    It does appear your bow is tuned. If the arrows are more flipping and flopping then spinning it might be a minor tuning issue. If they are more spinning then flippping its the fletching of your arrow putting a spiral on them like the rifling of a barrel imparting a spin to the bullet.

    The broadhead tuning info is more for Vectrix27 than you. the Tuning guide is a great tool to have handy though as it can help you if your bow ever gets bumped or jarred and the tuning becomes off.
     
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    Bob Thomas Die Hard Bowhunter

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    When you let an arrow go it flexes from the immediate force put on it. Could this be what you are seeing?
     
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    If your bow is properly tuned than you should be able to put all of your shots in the same bullseye. As long as you don't switch weights you should experience what you are.
     
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    Rampaige Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I get a little wobble or kick in my flight but my arrows will still generally hit in the same group, just a little off. I was able to correct this by correcting my form. They flew much straighter when I really concentrated on doing things slow.
     
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    If you are adjusting your sights when you put on a broadhead, your bow is not tuned. Paper tuning should only be a starting point (some would even argue if its needed). Read through this guide (http://www.eastonarchery.com/pdf/tuning_guide.pdf) and follow its steps and you can put any broadhead at the same POI as a field point. Shooting expandable BH's are only masking your tuning problem.
     
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    CowboyColby Die Hard Bowhunter

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    My muzzy mx 3's, my field tips, and my T locks all shoot the same.
     
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    This is due to paper tuning only being part of the equation! You need to do walkback tuning and broadhead tuning as well. I use a slightly different method and am currently bareshaft tuning my Z7. In this process, I can shoot a bareshaft arrow and also FT arrows and BH tipped arrows to the same spot at 20 yrds. I will be trying to move back to 30 yards tomorrow for a little finer tuning. The bare shaft shows finer imperfections with the tune of your bow and also with your form.
     

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