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Situation Ethics - Would You Take The Shot?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Tony, May 20, 2014.

  1. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    :lmao: Didn't you say that deer would belong to you?
     
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    No

    Yes if its only 10 yards. If I cant see it down though, Im not sure what Id do. Call a different CO probably and ask their thoughts and see if they can help.
     
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    Guess you don't own any hunting ground

    Property rights first so next time you wound a deer and it dies across the fence you know you have been told and warned about call the agent and find out what rights you really have. Or call now and post what you find out.
     
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    Why is that?
     
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    So on a similar note if someone you know comes to hunt your ground and you tell him Do Not cross the fence because you can't retrieve your deer over there do you still take the risk and lose a deer when you were told the rules in the first place? Or do you hop the fence and lose your hunting spot for ever.
     
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    No no they don't. About a month ago I just had a pretty long conversation with my buddy who is a CO and couple his friends that are CO's about that very thing. They're trying to change it so they are like other law enforcement and need a warrent but haven't yet. I think its bs but they kept arguing that they couldn't do their job if they weren't allowed to go on a persons property whenever they want.
     
  7. Tony

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    If I was hunting with you, your house, your rules....I would not cross the fence...if someone was hunting with.me and his deer died 10 yards of the property, we are grabbing his deer and dragging it over the line...10 seconds..
     
  8. ultramax

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    Bs all the way around. That's why there are lawyers and judges. In 51 years I have never seen a agent in the woods, called them many times and they never show until 4-5 past and then they tell me they can't or won't do there job.
    Had some guys tear up my ground with atv's in the snow the agent told that even thou the track lead him right to there door he would not know how was riding them.. Bs
    Had the same guys cut the fence and dumping corn and hunting over it..sent the agent out he looked at the site and told me the corn looked old and he wasn't going to do anything over the baited site or trespassing...Bs.

    You are on your own in my state.
     
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    Well idk what to tell ya. Here in Illinois that's the way it is. Theu can come on your ground or search your property on a whim. Have I had it happen, no, does it happen, yes.

    I don't agree with it at all, hence the argument I had with them guys and why I'll probably see one this fall unless the law gets passed redistricting it.
     
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    My faith in others is always reborn with ethics threads..good job
     
  11. Tony

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    Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
     
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    More like condescension.
     
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    You guys have fun. I am headed to the lake house for the holiday
     
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    1. No
    2. Yes - State law specifically states I can. Now if I were to ask and the land owner told me no then there would be a problem. That's why I am not asking first! Unless I know that neighbor really well and are on good terms with them. If I am looking for it when he kicks me off then I will call the CO to come get the deer. The landowner can not stop them.
     
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    1- no

    2- yes if I can see it 10 yards away...absolutely...I'm getting the expired deer and not wasting anyones time....and a bunch of you nancies are full of crap....you see your deer laying right there I'd bet good money that 90% or more of you that said no to this are grabbing that deer quicker than flies can get to a **** pile....especially if you're alone.....this isn't ethics to me....this is common sense....get the damn deer....anyone who gets mad over someone going 10 yards on their land for 10 seconds to get a dead deer isn't someone you are going to reason with anyway....get to it and get it taken care of....period....no way I'd let a deer rot 10 yards away
     
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    Oh well,opinions are like"you know what"everybody has one.
     
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    1. No
    2. Yes - Once it got dark, I would recover the deer.
     
  19. Tony

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    Let's revisit the question and no coping out by saying you have the legal right ... in some states you do not, so let's say you were hunting where you do not have the legal right

    yeah, i'm sick at home and bored ...don't judge me :D
     
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    I'm hunting in a very similar situation. I got a public land spot that is back in the timber about a quarter mile. but I'm sitting about 60 yards from the lot line. Sitting in my stand I can see the posted sign and the metal stakes in the ground.
    I will not hunt is property which is totally fine by me. However, since I'm on public ground I'm hunting the spot I found regardless if he likes it or not. (I've never met the guy.) This year I drilled an 8 pointer and I'm lucky it only ran 40 yards and tipped over on the public land.

    Now if the deer ran over onto his property, I'm going to get my deer regardless what anyone says. I'm not hunting on your land and respect that but I'm getting my deer that was legally shot on public land. I'll get it and get off.

    I think all states should legally allow you to recover game even if you have to have an officer with you.
     

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