Preacher--- Luckily I have agreements with all the neighbors about this issue-- and its not an issue for me.. To answer your question directly- No I would not, its only a deer. Thousands die daily on the roads and by many different cause all over the place. One more is not the end of the world if it means breaking the law to get it.. When is ok to just break the law a little Tony? Jake-PA - no I don't eat my tag.. because I wouldn't have shot it in the first place.. Do you burn your tag if you shoot a big buck and loose it by not being able to find it?
Tony, where I hunted in Illinois, we were not allowed to go onto the neighboring property without permission. Permission was tough to get. Even with negotiations. The guy who leased the adjoining property is/was simply a d-bag. Deer were most certainly unrecovered because of this. None of us would trespass to recover a deer...... and we would not eat that tag. Because *bleep* you, ***hat neighboring hunter who wants all the deer for himself. You won't let us get our deer? We'll just shoot another one. Suck it! BTW, most everyone hunted quite a distance from the property line. But even well hit deer can travel over 100 yards on occasion. And because we were on public land the deer usually made a bee-line for the private land. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
What new scenario Tony? the 100 yards scenario? If that's what you mean then NO... I guess I better re-read your post to see what confusion we have if that's not what you are referring too. .
1) NO. 2) YES. BUT first I would get a Game Warden and both contact the land owner and go get the deer. He has no choice but to let you retrieve your legally killed buck.
given the OPs exact scenario: 1) of course not. But even after he walked out of sight, I'd be hitting my doe in heat call HARD right up to the end of legal shooting hours. I've actually faced this scenario (at slightly longer ranges) with a slug gun, years ago. The landowner next door leased and posted his property and I know there was no one on it that day; I could have dropped that buck with none the wiser. I felt like I was going to throw up once he got out of sight. He was a legit 150" deer; never saw him again. 2) Might have to mcguyver a barbed fishing bolt for my crossbow, and get me some of that 200# test Christina was talking about. The recovery would make for interesting trail cam images, I'm sure. *** not sure what "eat my tag" means. You mean to say I know killed a buck, so therefore I'm not going to shoot another even though I couldn't recover it? Why would anyone do that? Would you "eat" your tag if you gut shot one and never found it? An unrecovered deer is an unrecovered deer. As long as you exhaust every legal/moral avenue to recover your deer, you have upheld the "sportsman's creed." No eating of tag necessary, neither legally nor ethically.
I am not sure why some are saying "it's just a deer". This forum has put the whitetail deer on a pedestal and now we are saying that? If it falls within my sight, I will go get it. Not going to waste a tag, not going to waste the meat, and if it's a nice buck - not going to waste the antlers.
I say it because its the way I feel about it.. Yeah I like shooting big bucks, and have be fortunate to take a few.. But they were all just deer.. Some have bigger ivory than others.. flesh bone and hair-- just deer!
I am trying to understand the convoluted idea that it's somehow morally ok to let a deer you killed go to waste rather then " trespass " 30 feet? My conscience and my wallet can handle a trespassing ticket a whole lot better then knowing I didn't do every thing I could to recover the deer.....which in this case was walk 30 stinking feet.
Conscience has nothing to do with this scenario.. If it did you wouldn't have shot the deer in the first place... I guess I need to ask the same question I asked Tony of you Trail153. When is ok to break the law just a little? If you steal 5 cents or 500 dollars its still stealing--- is it not? Once again-- I would not be in a position to be challenge by the scenario in the first place..
Oh please what a bunch holier the thou crap. You didn't brake the law when you shot the deer, the deer died 30 feet over a line that meaning less to an animal. It very well could have ran 30 feet the opposite direction. So one way is right and one is wrong? Spare me that kind of logic in regards to the "law". A law is what it states, it makes an action legal or illegal that it. It has nothing to do with what's right or wrong. In this case the right thing to do is walk 30 and retrieve the deer.
So you have never driven over the speed limit? Never J-walked across the street. Didn't drink a beer before you were of age? Are we cherry picking which laws are ok to break and which ones are not? There have been many stories posted of deer traveling long distance after the shot, even with a good hit. Are you telling me you hunt such a large piece of property that you don't run the risk of a poorly hit deer making over the property line? You must be very luck to have such an ideal situation.
Has nothing to do with holier than thou-- the question was asked and I answered it honestly. Guess you did to.. Its okay to steal or break the law when its right... In your mind~!
Um, you were the one pulling the moral high ground attitude. I would argue that there is definitely a right and wrong as far as the law is concerned. Not to mention that if the landowner, for whatever screwed reason won't let you trespass on his property, he has that right (in most states). It's only a hyped up sense of entitlement that someone could use to both break the law and the wishes of the landowner to retrieve a deer in this scenario. Not moral superiority. BTW, where I hunted, you'd get a ticket, lose the deer and your hunting privileges. So it was a lose-lose situation.
Didn't say that Skywalker... I did say I have already covered that issue with neighbors on ALL the ground I hunt! I gave my opinion and it is what it is.. You pick and choose the laws you want to break and I will do the same.. Trespassing is not one of them.
You asked when it was ok to break the law just a little. My point was that we all break the law on a daily basis. I can guarantee that there's not one single member on this site that can honestly say they have never broken a single law. People excuse away laws all the time. Ethically speaking, killing an animal and leaving it to waste is just as egregious an act as walking on someone else's property. I'm a land owner, and I don't want people trespassing on me either, but like I've said before. I'd rather them trespass to get a dead deer then to just let it go to waste. But, that's just me.
I STILL don't believe anyone would let the Buck of a lifetime rot 10 yards from the property line....no way... For me, I wouldn't let a fawn go to waste
And the answer is still never, And I didn't say I haven't ever broken a law either.. But saying its ok to breaks trespassing law is one I cannot and will not do.. Owning 300 acres of prime hunting ground and seeing folks trespass is something I have dealt with for 20 years, and something I will not do to others. I also have 2700 acres of leased land, and have had to deal with it there also.. So no.. It is never right to break the law even a little, but as you say we all do it sometime even if we unconsciously go over the speed limit...
