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Situation Ethics - Would You Take The Shot?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Tony, May 20, 2014.

  1. Jimmany

    Jimmany Weekend Warrior

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    1.No way.
    2.Nope. But I actually am very good at roping. I took lessons a year ago so I might do what fitz suggested if its only 10 yards.
     
  2. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    Stupid? How? For not getting the deer is the only thing I can think of...
     
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    For putting myself in a situation, (that close to the line)where the deer recovery would become a legal issue. I understand it happens all the time, but i would not put myself that close to the property line.
     
  4. Tony

    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    Joe, deer often run over 100 yards....it can be that scenario ...Like Skywalker said, I'll be damned if I am not going to hunt all the property.

    1. No

    2. ABSOLUTELY getting the deer....thank God around me all the landowners want you to get your deer and we will all help each other if a deer goes on the other's property...but please, it is not stupid to hunt your property line,,
     
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    Yes Tony i know how far deer can run when they get shot....But how did you learn that? did you hear someone saying that? or read about it? :poke::lol:

    I only feel it's stupid if your neighbor is a total d bag, and you still hunt the line knowing that. I'm not saying hunting 50 yards away from the line is stupid, but hunting 10 yards off the line is, especially if the deer is coming from that way, chances are he's goign back that way when he gets shot.
     
  6. purebowhunting

    purebowhunting Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I'd like to see this answer this fall on the first, "I hit one, now what" thread. Just a deer in the spring, half god in the fall.
     
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    Scenario 1. You found a great spot just 30 yards from someone else's property that you DON'T have permission to hunt ..... the biggest buck you have ever seen walks the fence line on HIS property ... he is walking slowly, stopping for 10 seconds at a time ... it is obvious he is just going to follow the fence line away from the property you hunt ..... do you shoot?


    I would not shoot a deer on property that I do not have access to. I value hunting to much to risk that.

    Scenario 2. You are hunting from the same stand, the previous scenario has not happened, the same buck comes by on the property you are hunting, you drill him at 20 yards ... he runs, jumps the fence, then dies 10 yards on the other property ... again. you have been told that you will be prosecuted if the landowner ever found you on his property ...... do you get the buck? In the area you are hunting, the neighbor is great friends with the CO and there is not a law stating that he has to let you recover your deer.....
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    I would talk to the homeowner. I actually looked it up, and in oregon we don't have a recovery law, so it would really be up to the homeowner. It would be really hard to see that happen, to see the meat and such just go to waste.
     
  8. Jake/PA

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    No

    Absolutely. I will not let a neighbor prevent me from recovering a deer. I understand not wanting someone stomping through your woods but if its 10 yards off the line, I am going for it. 50 yards would still be a yes for me.
     
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    This. I don't understand why people have such a problem with hunting close to a property line. The only problem is if a neighbor has a stand right on the line facing your field or something to that extent. The layout of my neighbor's property would only allow him to hunt a four wheeler path if he had to cut out 30 yards all the way around.
     
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    1. No

    2. No, I would call a local game warden and go to the neighbors house with him. If the stars happen to align, chances are the neighbor is not home and the warden will allow you to cross the property line to retrieve the game hunted and tag the animal.
     
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    1) probably not

    2) yes, then I would walk 30 feet, and pull the deer buy the antler and drag it a whole 30 feet back......all that would have taken less time then it took to type this.
     
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    I understand this...and yes I would be lying if I said it would be just as easy to have that mindset come fall and I arrow one of my dream targets...but it truly doesn't change the fact it is a deer. Would it make me sick to my stomach...no doubt. Would I probably be hotter than a biscuit ready to knock the landowner's head off....no doubt. Would it eat me up for days...weeks...months and probably be held against the landowner for years....no doubt. Would I still force myself to not trespass...no doubt.

    Trespassing is something I am so utterly disgusted by due to times it has occurred on my family property and the deer lost to it makes me sick to the stomach...I couldn't do that to someone else's property. I would be extremely polite to the landowner, even invite them to recover it with me if that makes them feel better about it, offer half the deer's meat even...if that fails then I call DNR and see if they can convince the landowner...if they can't succeed than I would probably approach the landowner again and ask if there is anything I can do to earn the right to recover the deer as I desperately believe it to be wrong he/she is withholding it but am willing to do some work or whatever....if that were to fail then I am not sure what I would do. Perhaps release the information to local news station, attempt to draw attention to it...but that would seem wrong in nature as well because my intent would not be fruitful. I would definitely call my attorney and see if there are any legal issues or charges we could bring/threaten them with, but that costs money I simply don't make enough to cover.....

    ....so yeah in the end I know my father would look at me and say "Son, you know you got it, I know you got it, they know you got it...if they can sleep at night with themselves that is between them and God...it is in the end a deer." It would possibly take him or another person to remind me of this but it would happen.

    To sacrifice one's character or morals for just a set of horns or meat is foolish and degrading to the man I strive (fail miserably but strive) to be.

    It would suck terribly...a nasty thread would probably be created here sharing the story...but in the end I would not recover the deer.
     
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  13. Tony

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    I do not believe anyone on here would go get a game warden or try to reason with the land owner...I believe you would ALL just walk the 30 feet onto his property and drag the buck back across the line ....
     
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    1. no
    2. Yes
     
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    First off I would not shoot a buck under the scenario you laid out in option 2 because I wouldn't be hunting that stand knowing the landowners stance on trespassing! PERIOD! That is just asking for trouble.

    Your integrity is no longer valid once you bend it to suit your own desires--- even when no one is looking!
     
  16. Jake/PA

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    I think the game warden would even be scratching his head on why you just didnt go drag the deer back.
     
  17. Tony

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    OK ... you shot a deer 100 yards away from the line and it ran on the DBag's property...30 feet .... you KNOW he will not let you get the deer...you KNOW by law the GW can't help...you just let the deer rot 30 feet away? Be honest...
     
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    So to the ones that shot it and decided to not recover it, I assume you will be eating the tag?
     
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    After reading the majority of the responses on this post why would you expect an honest answer.
     
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    1. No, I would not shoot onto another hunters property
    2. Yes, if I see the deer go down I am going to get it one way or another.
     

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