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Situation Ethics - Would You Take The Shot?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Tony, May 20, 2014.

  1. ultramax

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    So what if the guy has warned many times about trespassing , so you might of stolen a few trail cams and tree stand or two.the you hunt right up to his fence hell you might as well hunt facing his direction. The rest is clear. You won't knowingly get one off my ground

    Here in mo you cannot cross a fence even with a agent in tow.and it's legal for a owner to protect himself and property.so why spit in super mans face because your a db to begin with.
     
  2. TJF

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    1. no

    2. I wouldn't put myself in that situation if I had been previously told to stay off. We can legally retrieve a deer without a weapon on other's posted land without permission but you better have proof the deer was shot on your side. The only way we can't is if the landowner has previously told us that we aren't allowed to retrieve or he shows up before we find it and tells us to leave. You are screwed then and the game warden can't help other then to ask him/her to reconsider in giving permission.

    If I shot a deer that made it on posted land and I knew the landowner could be a toughie to deal with but has never told me I couldn't retrieve... I would retrieve it without permission and take my chances if I could see the deer or I didn't figure it had gone very far into his property.

    If I couldn't see the deer or figured it could have went in a ways on his property or if he hunted and I figured I could hurt his hunting by being in there... I would ask before entering even though legally I wouldn't have to. While I would hate getting told no and not being able to retrieve my deer... I don't want to ruin anything for the landowner nor tromp all over his land.

    So far I've never have put myself in that situation and I plan to keep it that way.

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    1 No
    2 First off I wouldn't be hunting that close to the line if I didn't have permission to retrieve game off the neighbor.. That being said--- NO - I don't break the law for any damn deer!
     
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    1. No

    2. Yes
     
  6. tynimiller

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    1. Nope

    2. Call CO, explain concern and hope for the best....it is what I would expect in return from neighbor.
     
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    Like Matt said, I wouldn't hunt there in that situation with a bow. Gun maybe.


    But to answer the question.


    1. No I would not shoot.

    2. Heck yes. I would walk over there get my buck and get the hell out of there and take my chances. If it went farther I would still get it but wait till at night.
     
  8. rknierim

    rknierim Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Simple answers for me

    1. No

    2. Yes. Absolutely
     
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    I think a trespassing ticket would cost less than most of my equipment.
     
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    It's a deer.
     
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    To expound further on the if he said no scenario....with it being 10 yards...I would start recording it, document the crap out of it, try to be there when the landowner comes to take it (only true reason they'll say no)....blast the crap out of them on local newspapers/tv shows :lol:

    I would only do this if they said no though and only after telling them you would do all you could to pressure them to give it to you via local media sources....

    ...ultimately though it is a deer, would have to be a special deer to make me consider running someone through the mud.
     
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    1. No, because I would be irritated if a neighbor did that to me

    2. That scenario can not happen here. We are legal to retrieve game on other's property as long as we don't carry a weapon. So, I really don't honestly know how I would handle that situation. Let me just say, it would be extremely difficult for me to leave a deer laying within sight that I thought would go to waste.
     
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    1. No to me it's black and white. Not my land. I would do everything I could think of to get that buck on my side of the line though.

    2. I would first call the landowner, if they still refuse I would then call the DNR and if the didn't work I would use the lasso;)


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    No and no. I Fricking hate trespassers so I couldn't do it myself. I promise you though one way or another in you're scenario #2 that my buck would find its way home to me one way or another. Let's hope this never happens.

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    1) No
    2) Yes. If its that close to the line, I'm getting the deer and leaving.
     
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    1) no

    2) yes after dusk.
     
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    1. No.
    2. Yes.
     
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    1) No, assuming the landowner has an issue with me shooting over the fence. Not an issue for me on my property, but I can imagine it is for a lot of folks.

    2) I'll be recovering my deer one way or another. I would rather pay a fine than to see that deer go to waste. If it's in sight, I'm probably going to go get it. If I'm going to have to track it, I'll get with the landowner and let him know I'm going to go retrieve my deer. Good news is that I film my hunts, so I will have video evidence of where the deer was shot.

    For those that say they wouldn't hunt within 30 yards of the fence line, you must hunt huge properties. If I cut 30 yards out of my property all the way around, my place would be almost un-huntable. I pay for every inch of my property, so I'm damn well going to use it. I have several stands in the fence rows, all facing my property. Luckily I don't have any neighbors that bow hunt, and I only hunt those stands during bow season. If my neighbors hunted, then I'd at least keep them off the fence line out.

    I've had people tracking across my property without my permission, and yeah it's really annoying and pisses me off. But, I'd rather them find that deer than let it go to waste.
     
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    1. No

    2. If i for some reason put myself in that situation.....NO, i would not break the law and trespass to retrieve my deer. i would contact the landowner and ask permission to retrieve the deer. if he said "no"...then so be it. shame on me for being stupid.
     
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    1) No.

    2) No. I have lost a buck due to it running on to a non-hunters property. They refused permission and the PGC said it was out of their hands, so I lost the deer. I no longer hunt close to property I do not have permission to be on.
     

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