I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that sights with a longer frame and smaller pins will help with accuracy. The way it described it made sense to me. It also said a longer stabilizer with the weight at the end will help to reduce sway. That I don't know because I have no experience there. Right now I and using axion sight with .019 pins I believe and the frame is about 2" long so it doesn't stick out far. Also have Axion stabilizer that is about 4" maybe 5". If these were changed out to longer ones would that actually make a difference in accuracy. i don't know anybody close that archery hunts other than the people at the local pro shop and lets face it, they are there to make $$$ before anything else. Already learned a lot from the people on here so why not stick here for help.
A longer sight bar "dovetail" will increase accuracy for SOME people but not all, it's not as generic as some people make it out to be...The further you extend the sight head out away from the bow the more movement/pin float you will notice while aiming...Now if your one of the few that are super steady they will be more accurate because getting the pin closer to the target "farther from your eye" can increase accuracy a little...But if you float a lot having the sight pin farther away just magnifies that issue even more. Also with the sight head extended out farther from the bow riser your pin gap will increase, sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes not...Depends on the shooter & bow setup/speed most of the time. As far as the stabilizer question...The shorter stabs you see most guys running on hunting bows are normally nothing more than noise/vibration dampers, they really don't do much to actually stabilize the bow "reduce motion & pin float"....The longer bar you can run and getting the weight out on the end of that bar is what stabilizes the bow...There's no set formula for it, it comes down to playing with a lot of setups and figuring out what works the best for you & your bow...But I will say this, to keep it hunting friendly, run something like a 12" bar with all the weight on the end "B-Stingers stabilizers are perfect for this", the exact amount of weight will depend on you, 8oz will work for some people where another guy might like a 12 or 14oz weight....I like B-Stingers cause the bar itself is carbon fiber, extremely light weight & extremely stiff "those are the things you want in a real stabilizer bar", you don't want a heavy bar or a weak bar with a lot of flex in it when you load the front end up with weight. One warning, a setup like this will feel weird if your not used to them when you first start shooting them...Give it time and you will see the benefits though...Also, it's not uncommon for me to run a front bar & a back bar on a hunting bow, I like a stable bow at full draw without a ton of float but I also like a bow that balances pretty neutral and doesn't tip forward really fast when the shot breaks.
I agree with j daddy. I was one of those that shot better with the sight in a little closer. For me it was as much to do with the added weight above my hand and extended out as it was pin float. I love the added weight on a stab at the end as j daddy talked about but didn't like it above. That's the personal preferences we all need to learn for ourselves. Another good hunting stabilizer is the 11 1/2" fuse. it puts the weight out front as well. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
I have to agree for the most part. I personally do not like a whole lot of weight out front though. I use Stokerized acrylic stabilizers because I like the way the weight is distributed. I use a 10" with no added weight out front. This year I'm adding a 6" side bar with a little (2-4oz) weight added to the back. As for the sight, I do like mine out further but, not more than 6". I'm steady on my hold and don't float my pins though. I use a .010 pin and much past 6" it's very small and gets a little more difficult to see. I really think for a hunting rig especially hunting whitetail inside 30 yd it's not much help to have all the added stuff like a longer stab and sidebar. It's when you get to pushing the 40+ yard mark when it starts to really matter. Say out west hunting Elk or Mulies.
I agree on the stabilizer part of your post...Let's be honest, for the guys who just whitetail hunt and don't shoot over 20-30 yds there is NO need for a long heavy stabilizer or a back bar setup...If a guy can't take a little vibration damper stabilizer that's light and just eats up noise and shoot well at 20-30yds then he has a lot more issues than just a stabilizer going on. Heck look at Randy Ulmer, he shoots no stabilizer at all and you wouldn't want him shooting at you at 150yds with a bow, lol. His brother Rusty is the same way, he doesn't hunt with a stab and he's an excellent shot as well. Now I've set plenty of hunting bows up with longer bars & a back bar and whitetail hunted with them BUT with those bows I've also hunted out west that same year hunting antelope, elk or mule deer and those shots can get long.
Thanks. After reading that and thinking about how I am I will more than likely just try a longer stabilizer. I'm not the steadiest with a bow so there is a bit of pin floating. Only been shooting a bow since January and have nobody to really help so I've learned most everything on here. It is greatly appreciated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I understand that for sure. Last year I wanted to see how well I shot without one. This was after almost a year of a 10" Stokerized. At 75yd my group looked the same with and without. I use the stabs because I like how it feels. It does help when I'm under a little pressure at say a 3D tournament or when I have a lot of people watching me shoot. When I shoot a deer, I really don't have a problem with nerves. It hits after the moment is over. I didn't use to be that way. I use to second guess my shots, should I shoot, how's my anchors and all that other stuff. Having the stabilizer in some ways may help my mental game as much as it does my technical game. Either way its what I feel comfortable with and I think that's probably half the equation.
