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Sight in bow with target tips or practice broadhead?

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  1. Jokyle

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    I have a Matthews Creed and I’ve sighted it in with target tips and am very satisfied with my groups. I will be late season hunting in Michigan’s upper peninsula. My concern is when I shoot the practice tip for my Rage broadheads, it is consistently 3” higher than where my target tips hit.

    My question is how reliable is the way the Rage practice tip flies compared to the real broadhead? If I aim 3” low I hit the bullseye very consistent with the practice tip. Should I adjust the sight to zero the practice tip or leave it and make the adjustment if I get a shot on a deer?
    Thanks in advance
     
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    Something isn't right, what is the weight of your target tips.
     
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    100 gr
    All my broadheads, Rage or 3 blade Muzzy are 100 gr also and the bow is paper tuned. It’s very accurate, I’m just apprehensive about changing my sight to zero the practice tip for broadheads that I haven’t shot. After practicing today, after several shots I’m confident if I aim 3 inches low I’m dead on.
     
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    Are the broadheads a different weight than the field points? If not, your bow is badly out of tune and needs adjustments done. Go to a local proshop and have them helps tune the bow.
     
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    Something is seriously wrong if a closed mechanical practice head is not hitting same as field points. If the field points weight the same as the mechanical practice head....something is seriously wrong.
     
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    I concur, 1 arrow through paper will tell the tale
     
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    Yep bow is not tuned
     
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    I had it paper tuned, punches a straight hole. Dead nuts with target tips and the arrows are dead straight in target and flight.

    I made a minor adjustment on my sight and just shot 20 times with the Rage practice tip at 20-25 yds. I’m right on now. The picture was a 25 yard shot
     

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    I’m right on now with the practice broadhead. Do the practice broadheads fly exactly the same as the real broadheads? I would have to believe they are designed too. That’s my biggest concern because I’ve never shot Rages before.

    Thank you for your input. Im a Hunter, not a target shooting guy. I probably shoot 50 shots a yr out to 40 yds, satisfy myself that the bow and I are good and put it away till season. These Rages were a gift, I rarely change anything once I’m on so that’s why I asked if there are differences
     
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    Do you have any fixed blade heads to shoot? If those impact differently than field points, the bow still needs to be tuned. If the bow is properly tuned, you shoot be able to shoot any broadhead or field point, with matching weights, and see no difference in POI.
     
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    First off, let me thank you for all your responses, I very much appreciate your help.

    I have 3 blade Muzzy 100 grain, that’s all I’ve ever shot.

    Guess I’ll take a trip to the archery shop!
    I also use them (Muzzy) on my crossbow and the poi was about 2-3” low and left, same heads and same target tips. I just made a little adjustment to the crossbow scope and I shoot 1” groups out to 40 yds with it. Weird
     
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    I could never get muzzy 3 blades to tune well for me. Right now, I can shoot a Zwickey No Mercy, Magnus Stinger, and Slick Trick Magnum. All three broadheads will hit with my field points or close enough that I know a miss is me and not the bow. Best to get the tune on your bow checked.
     
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    Paper tuning at 3' isn't the end of tuning. It especially isn't if the bow shop tech was the one shooting it through paper instead of you doing the shooting. Shoot a bareshaft and a fletched arrow, both with field points, at 20 yards. The bareshaft should have the same POI and it's angle into the target should also match the fletched arrow. A layered broad head type target needs to be used for this, a bag type target doesn't maintain the arrow angle.
    The problem you are seeing is more than likely the difference between your form and the bow shop tech's form. If you take it back to the shop make sure YOU are the one that fires the arrow through paper, otherwise the tech is likely to do it and then tell you it is still shooting a bullet hole.
     
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    What is the condition of your string?
     
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    Close to new. No frays, waxed
     
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    I did the shooting when tuned last time
     

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