Should people with PHD's call themselves, "doctor"?

I guess I'm just a moron because people are people and I judge them on merit, not degrees.
Just the way I was raised I guess.

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Everyone judges people by their appearances. For 95% of the people we see in our everyday lives, it is all we have to go by. Don't try and act like you are above judging people. It is our nature.

I'm just honest enough to admit it.

 

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I didn't say that. First impressions are just that but I DO NOT think more highly of someone that holds a doctorite because they have one.

Now, if you ask me if I want someone operating on me that doesn't have one, then I would say hell no. But I also want a mechanic working on my car. And I want the best of both. Sometimes that means putting up with a pompous ***.

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I don't care how hard it is. Doesn't matter to me. I'm not going you respect you more than the next person just because you are educated. Educated an uneducated deserve the same respect.

And this thread was started about respect, not who is more job qualified so you can drop that argument now.

 

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I have a Ph.D... but I'm not that smart. I have extremely deep knowledge in a certain area (both in text theory and career 'real-world' experience)... but in other areas - I'm clueless! I had a very good Amish friend tell me I was the smartest man he ever knew... but I sure didn't have much common sense. He was so right. With all that said... if I had to do it all over again, I'd probably learn a trade (so I'd have a broad-based knowledge on a variety of skills).

As for calling myself 'Doctor'... NOPE - I don't - and I don't ask it from my students (I'm an Adjunct Faculty member for the State of NY University system) or others either. I'm just, Jerry.

P.S. The first stage of intelligence is knowing what you don't know, and accepting it.

 

Actually the thread was started about whether or not someone with a PhD should call themselves "Dr", and yes, they have that right, and if they request to be called that in a formal setting, I see no problem. I think that most of the posters that have problem with this are just a bit insecure, thus the whole "dey gotta earn my respect" mantra.

I think it is a d**** move to request it in a casual setting though.

 

I know plenty of people with PHDs....playa hatin degrees...not one asks to be called doctor

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I don't remember any of my college professors referring to themselves or their peers as "doctors"?

 

Yea I'm gonna haveta disagree with the insecure part, respect is always earned no matter if you have a peice of paper that says your smart or your a hs grad. I would say that most people that have to continually set themselves above others because of their accomplishments are far more insecure. If someone's got a PhD that's all fine and dandy and its a big deal but if you feel the need to correct someone or insist someone call you doctor then to me that's all your using to show your impotance or that you think you're entitled to more respect than what you deserve.

I do agree there is a time and a place for everything and yes a formal setting is a good example, but I dont care what title or what type of education you have your no different then the next guy and a peice of paper doesn't change that. Judging someone on simply title or in this case education isn't really showing respect its kissing a$$, especially if that's all your goin off of.

I would tell a story but you said to stop that ha ha.

 

I think almost every professor I had was Dr. Something. There was one I remember distinctly that didnt have her PHD and she let us all know she was "just" Professor so & so. But otherwise it was all Dr. from what I recall.

 

Maybe I am just not a guy who is impressed by people calling someone General Smith and jumping all around when General Smith arrives like he is the big bad wolf, or calling someone Doctor Smith over and over and gushing about it....and on and on. I really don't care and no, I am not insecure. I know who I am and who I am not.

Heck I don't even impress myself.

 

You don't have to gush about it...

Perhaps the Asst Principal wants to be called Dr. Smith at school because he feels it helps keep the respect of the students?

 

I'm wondering if this disrespect, or maybe one could say contempt by some, for educational achievements, bears some relationship to the fact that kids from other countries do better than ours in school.

I have respect for military service. I'm a vet after all, three years active duty in the Army. But I'm not sure that substitutes for a Ph.D.

After my wife, a Ph.D. candidate, was awarded her M.S. degree, she came down wearing her hood and carrying her diploma. Her mother bowed and addressed her as sensei. Our daughters also bowed. Then mother and daughter broke down in tears and hugged each other. I expect there will be a similar ceremony when she gets the Ph.D. Different culture.

I'm used to people disagreeing with me, but I'm having some difficulty understanding some of the attitudes here.

Oh well.

 

It would not hurt when dealing with some of the teachers either.

 

I'm not sure anyone is saying military service is a comparable substitute to higher education. Thats the path in life they choose just like I choose the path I did. Why should anyone compare what one has done instead of the other in your life choices.

I'm confused as to why some people on here feel they or anyone else is less or more of a success because of what they have or have not accomplished in their life. I'm sure my 5 years in the Marines impresses few people but their 5-10 years of college doesn't impress me either. I look at myself as equal to anyone and I can't believe it seems there are those on here that feel they are above or below anyone else because of a title or job.

 

no one has said such a thing