Should Deer Urine for Hunting be Banned to Slow the Spread of CWD?

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    I've never had much luck using deer urine, but that's not saying much I guess.
     
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    Yes. Commercial deer farming comes with a litany of issues that end up negatively affecting native deer herds.
     
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    IMO no, it's a knee-jerk reaction and more meaningless legislation that's going to be next to impossible to enforce. The chances of spreading CWD through urine are so incredibly remote that it's not worth wasting our breath on. Studies have shown you needed to take incredibly concentrated doses of urine from an infected animal and inject it directly into another animal's BRAIN in order for it to be spread that way. Banning natural deer urines is a feel-good act and will do nothing to slow the spread of CWD.

    What we should be more diligent about is bringing animal carcasses across state lines. While it's illegal in many places to bring a carcass in from another state, it gets almost no press. Bringing an infected animal home, cutting the meat up and dumping the carcass in a field or dumpster is a sure-fire way to introduce CWD into a new landscape in a far more prevalent manner than sprinkling some deer piss in a scrape.
     
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    I agree with Trial, commercial deer farming has done more harm than feeding and urine ever could.
     
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    The issue isnt the "urine" or its use it's how you have to produce the urine. The deer farming is the issue.
     
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    Aside from people blaming CWD on captive herds, which is a whole separate discussion, what issues have there been?
     
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    That is the entire issue, how many disease outbreaks from captive deer do you need to realize commercial deer farming is not a good thing.
     
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    This link will save me some typing. It’s published by the wildlife society, they are partners in wildlife management via science and the North American models of conservation, ie holding and conserving wildlife for the public trust.

    https://wildlife.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/captive-cervid-breeding.pdf
     
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    I agree, it doesn't do much good. Its just another thing these hunting companies make a profit off of. People used to shoot all kinds of deer with little to no help from scents/scent eliminators or all that other stuff. I as though it doesn't really spread CWD but wouldn't necessarily help it. To me, there are bigger factors spreading it rather than processed deer urine.
     
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    I aint carrying around no piss in my bag.

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    I couldn't agree more. I know of a group of guys who goes to Pennsylvania to hunt and the one regulation is they have to be de-boned before bringing it back into Maine. To avoid bringing CWD or any other diseases they end up completely butchering and packaging the deer themselves in Pennsylvania.
     
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    Was there not a study done recently shown on this site that a deer would have to drink many gallons of CWD infected urine to contract the disease??
    Banning deer urine to stop CWD is about as effective as gun control. The govt would have to ban deer from working scrapes, licking over hanging branches , eating from the same area etc, etc and I'm not sure the deer would understand such a law.
     
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    I'm in no way for banning deer urine, synthetic or natural.. my neighbor tries using every gimmick urine under the sun and I believe it's why the big bucks avoid his place and he never shoots anything above 100".
     
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