Should deer drives (gun hunters) be a legal hunting method?

Ha, yes there is. Opinions were asked for and opinions were given. I don't see anyone here stating that they actively petition state legislators to make it illegal. I also don't read any comments from people apposed to drives or dogs stating they are going to wage a "civil war" on people that do it, as if they were going to shoot the first (or any) group they see doing something they don't like.
Is it any more selfish to state an opinion against it than it is to attack and name call those against it because you like to do it? That's a little gross bud. I don't recall calling anyone I disagreed with on the matter a bastard or any other name, even though it seems pretty greedy and lazy to me to drive deer and pot shoot them.

 

Didn't you know? It's only ok to state your opinion if it aligns with that of certain members of this site. Otherwise you are a selfish bastard

 

True, but lining up a bunch of guys and walking a field using dogs to scare the game into moving so the hunters can get a shot. Same basic idea as a deer drive.

 

I like beans.

 

I am appalled at how some of you act. You claim to be in the right merely because you feel a way so you resort to calling those of opposing viewpoints bastards and such. Childish way to approach disagreement. Even those more staunchly against driving deer than myself have never mentioned they would actively seek changing regulations or making "war" on those that practice deer drives.

This question seeked personal opinions on a legal means to harvest deer. Since when does respectfully presenting your opinion qualify as cause to be called bastards/elitists and such?? The answer is never.

You want to throw every single person under the same umbrella that is against yet, when anyone who has had one, two or a lot of bad experiences with deer drives occurring to justify their feelings you scream you can't lump everyone into those examples. Duh, that is so true for both parties, neither side can make 100% accusations either direction with blanket statements.

I would bet my savings account that most of us that have voiced we personally are not fans of deer drives would never want to seek making it illegal and in the end would rather stand with fellow hunters in our brethren than against them and slowly begin the stripping of hunting rights utilized for years.

Am I a fan of deer drives, heck no...but I will stand with them instead of against due to it being legal. If that would ever change I would no longer stand with them...don't see that happening though so might as well link arms as well.

 

What comment is everyone mad about?

 

I will admit I'm fired up not just by this conversation but one I had in person with a couple guys last week on a similar basis, disagreement over opinions on legal means of hunting. I am gonna make that disclosure on my previous post.

...however Siman/OH made the comment calling those against it elitist bastards.

Now I love Siman/OH and follow the brothers on facebook page they have, I don't truly feel he thinks us to be elitist bastards but the statement was still made and put out there.

 

I'm going to go with my wife, who posted earlier, on this one. We're all in this together and, as hunters, we need to hang together. They are too many people out there who want to ban guns, and ban hunting.

There was a vote here a few years ago to ban hunting bears with dogs. Now personally, bear hunters with dogs annoy the crap out of me and I wish they would quit. But I voted against the ban. Why? Because, as a brother hunter, if what you're doing is legal, I'm going to have your back.

 

I'm not a fan of them but I see no reason why they should be illegal.

 

But there are always limits. Always. For example, let’s say some hunters want to petition to make hunting legal at night. Or maybe hunt deer year round with guns. Would you support their efforts because hunters need to stick together? Just trying to make you think a little bit that you don't ALWAYS have to agree with what every other hunter wants to do.

 

I'm for leaving it to the biologists at the DNR to decide how best to regulate the sport. I'm not in favor of every possible means of killing animals. And I'm generally opposed to any kind of petition to change the way we hunt. Some of us may be pretty good hunters, but I think very few of us know enough to be statewide wildlife managers.

 

I've never participated in one and don't forsee myself ever doing so. I grew up gun hunting and I don't think I'll even hunt with a gun again until I'm an old man. I'm strictly a bowhunter anymore because I like to hunt in peace and serenity and being stealthy. But with that said I don't think they should be illegal or anything. I don't know all the state regulations around deer drives but considering safety I would think it makes sense to be limited to just private property. It's just another method of putting food on the table and I know plenty of people, including the Amish, who partake in deer drives. I don't think people drive deer seeking to harvest a specific deer, they do it for the food. So as long as safety is the top priority, have at it. Carry on.

 

If this thread didn't have it all it does now...a big dose of melodrama...,

 

God does not love those, who support deer drivers, there now we have it all covered.

 

Al Gore invented deer drives.

 

He said selfish, not elitist.

Get your facts straight. You're acting like an elitist.

 

IMHO, I think they are very dangerous for participants. Even more so for non-participants on neighboring properties.

I would also invite those who believe it is necessary for herd management to start letting others hunt their land. One can't be stingy, selfish, ect... and then claim its needed for management.

Traditionally deer (game) drives were a very effective way to put a lot of food on the table. I'd say there is very low percentage of people that still need to hunt to eat. For the majority its just a by-product of a hobby that we enjoy.

 

I did day selfish, not elitist. Why? Because the main reason people dont agree with deer driving is because they are worried about how it will effect "their" hunting.

Deer driving is NO different then coon hunting or pheasant hunting, but since the goal is to kill that 160" buck that you've been hunting for 3 years, all of a sudden its a dangerous and immoral way of harvesting deer.

 

Your looking into this too much.

Its as simple as this...if your one of those people that think everyone should hunt "your" way, then your handcuffing the rights of other hunters. And to call them lazy, or slobs, or a redneck...is being a selfish bastard.

 

To be fair Caleb... They have probably named that 160" buck and now have "history" with him because they caught him on camera 6 times.

It's funny how many people try to take ownership of public wildlife. Oh wait, that's selfish right?