Should deer drives (gun hunters) be a legal hunting method?

I don't think very many drink while hunting. I think most are pretty good about that with the few excpetions of course like anything. But that night or late afternoon they will have their blaze orange on in the bar after they are done hunting. Common practice for deer drivers around these parts.

 

From my experience that's the typical scenario everywhere....

I'm amazed and impressed with your ability to function with having your eyes closed all the time. I bet beer sales triple here during hunting season...at least.

 

Idk, maybe its different here since we can't party hunt. The people that I know that drive usually have 3 or 4 people. They usually push a small timber (less than 10 acres) around lunch time, then head back to the stand for the afternoon hunts.

 

I didn't say people don't drink and hunt. I said I've never seen it.

I'm surprised you see other hunters at all. Don't you own like 6 billion acres?

 

Party hunt is big part of the deer drive culture. For example. There is a group of about 24 deer drivers that I know about 10 of them. They will do deer drives the entire 9 day gun season. I'll say an average kill is 35-40 deer. They put all the deer in a big pool and split it. Most deer were shot by mutiple hunters anyway.

They never and I mean never pass on a deer. If it is brown they shoot.

 

That's exactly how it is by me. I have over 2000 acres of public land that borders my land. I've never seen the hung over crowd of 80 people deer driving either.

To the saying deer drivers are slob hunters. In my experience, bowhunters are some of the most pompous, and whiny people in the world. They're still hunters, and should still be allowed to do it.

 

Just to be clear I am in no way saying drive hunters are slobs. I am just explaining how they do it.

 

Maybe it's because I grew up gun hunting WI, but I'm for people doing drives if that's what they like and they don't trespass. Hell, I've shot nearly half my deer in WI on drives that other hunters did.

I've never liked doing the big hootin' & hollerin' type drives, but we've done many 1-4 man pushes. Last year I did a one man push to my cousin and his son. His son got his first nice buck out of it.



If you know of some groups looking to do drives, I'll give them a list of 5 or 6 they can do in Washburn CO, just let me get in my stand first

 

Me? No...I don't own anything. I live in my parents basement and when I want to go hunting I drive a ways out of town and walk into a random property on a whim. Not too far in though, I get thirsty and my beer is in the cooler in the back of my prius.

 

Ha well I get that at one time or another a group of people got together and decided all intact laws were needed because they didn't agree with the way it was. And since you brought up safety then yes that's a big issue that should be looked on but I'm willing to bet the areas where it is unsafe to drive deer is already illegal to do. The same as to why we can't hunt with rifles in Illinois. Or you haveta wear orange. And sure if your part of a drive it could lead to unsafe situations but if your not directly involved who's it unsafe for.

Like said I'll haveta go back through but what reasons are there to make it illegal where it already isn't that isn't because someone doesn't agree with it in one way or another or something that is taking place that is already illegal. More often than not it's somebody complaining that it runs the deer out of the area or someone that is doin it trespassed or something along those lines. It's usually a complaint because someone thinks it effects their success or they just don't do it.

What it really boils down to for me is that if someone is already goin to trespass to drive deer and do something illegal they are gonna continue to drive if that's made illegal. So why punish the guys that do it right.

 

This is how I've always seen it done. My dad, my brother, my grandpa and I. 2 driving 2 sitting, or 3 driving 1 sitting. I've drove with friends too, and its the same. I have never seen the stuff Brad is talking about.

 

I've seen it. Same guys that walk under my stand and never even see me in my orange. More often then not, I see them get out of their vehicles 400 yards away, listen to them talk loudly about how the drive is going to go. Then either before or as they first step in the woods the deer move by me.

My favorite is when they're trying to figure out which one of them shot

 

Same boat I am in.

 

That's the problem, I don't think there is a way to "do it right". I think it's just as unsportsmanlike as spotlighting deer at night and shooting them on one's own property. It's not a fair chase situation, the deer are "driven" and forced to go where they probably didn't intend to go at a time they probably didn't intend to travel. It's a quick and easy(ier) way to kill deer. No different than running with dogs, spotlighting or rifle hunting during archery season.

 

I personally dont like it nor participate in it. I feel its cheating in a way since I only bow hunt but then again its just another form of hunting.

 

If the deer were intending to go to the river (on a neighboring tract) for a nice weekend to snack on NATURALLY growing vegetation and they pass by your plots, feeders, and minerals/attractants and end up sleeping in your manufactured bedding area, is that cheating when those things are not naturally occurring like the tasty snacks and thickets at the river. Is it fair chase to entice them with all they awesome feeders they will eat at in the winter so they stay on your property through out the year?

 

There's a hell of a big difference between "encouragement" where they use their free will to live where they have 100% utilization of their survival senses and then a situation where they are driven and forced to act in spite of their free will, doing things against their nature in unnaturally pressured settings only to run headlong into a shooting gallery.

That is probably the grossest comparison I've seen yet.

 

Wow...guys, I am against driving deer but could come up with much more valid defenses for it than some stated....you cannot compare forcing deer to move against there will to encouraging use through hinging, plotting or the likes....

Honestly neither side of this thread need to grasp at straws as such...serious justified reasons from both sides depending your hunting region and company you keep.

 

I agree with enticing the deer and do not look down on any who do.


But feeders are hardly natural, but legal so good in by book

 

Feeders are another beast, and I personally don't utilize them well because not legal here...if legal I am not sure if I would.