So much THIS! Hooker, I have no idea what studies you are referring too ...ain't it funny how no one here knows someone that has been or has been in one of these "studies" themselves??? I give 100% of everything I have .... I know many people just like that ...I also know many that are the opposite ... you are not going to make a sluggard work more efficiently, and you will get less out of the guy that gives 100% of themselves, for you can't get more that 100% and they will only be working 32 hours.... your "study" is BS ...100%
I agree. Basically I see it as doing 32 hours worth of work in 40 hours, if your work is done in 32 hours one should find other stuff to do One use to get ahead by doing more. Now days it seems many want to get ahead and do less
We do both. Americans work harder because we have more opportunities. Europe is ruined by socialism and it almost impossible for the average guy to make it big there. It takes three of their nations to do what our Boeing does. You want to work less hours go ahead. We'll take up the slack and make the money you leave on the table just don't complain afterwards.
Sounds like a lot of you should just start you own business. From age 20-40 I worked 60hr weeks now I work 25hr weeks on off season and 60hrs only during season. More or less. America is fantastic. Go for the gold.
I'll try your 32 hour a week thing next week. I am sure my boss will love the idea of me working 2.2 days now or 1.8 days during spring work/harvest and taking the rest of the week off. Pretty sure most farmers wouldn't go for it. They would have to hire twice the number of workers now and pick up an extra worker for springs work/harvest to do what I do. So with your logic instead of paying wages/insurance for the two of us that work there full time... he would now have to hire 5 - 6 guys and pay out 2.5 - 3X more just to get the same amount of work that the 2 of us are doing now. I like your idea though. It would be great for me !!!!! I could get another full time job and still have my weekends off. Tim
Not bragging in any way but the worst stretch of long hours off the top of my head was 23 days straight and I average 17.5 hours a day. 402.5 hours in a little over 3 weeks. That is a lot of 32 hours weeks in that time frame... 12.5 according to my math. Glad corn harvested ended and I got 2 weeks off for my trouble. According to you... I still got screwed out of 10.5 weeks of my life in those 3 weeks. That bastard !! Tim
Maybe it's the field, but I totally get where Hooker is coming from. There is a finite amount of work I have every week. It changes constantly. Some weeks it would take all of 20 hrs to get it done, some it takes 40+. What point is it for me to sit at work doing nothing, just to fill out my "40 hours"? And while I'm on the topic. What about working from home? This is another very sticking point with me as I can do 99% of my job from home in my under wear. Why do i have to fight traffic & pay to park every day?
I'm sure most business owners would like to pay employees only for the hours they need them to work, that's how they get paid. Can't see expecting your boss to let you off and still pay you for hours your not at work. That's we're bosses really work for the employees not the other way around. It's up to them to get the work for the employees to do so they are not getting paid to sit around.
If your saying that you should get paid the same amount for working less hours than no, I don't get it. If your saying that retail stores should go back to 9-5 M-F and 9-2 on sat and closed Sunday and no 24hr CVS and super walmarts than I would say yes. I do feel for employee working sundays and crazy hours for the convenience of a few. In Spain everybody closes shop at noon for a two to three hour lunch then go back and stay until 9pm. Don't think I'd like that either.
The People that built this country worked from sun up till sun down with no machines or electricity. It's this oprotunity to better ourselves the reason people risk their lives to step foot in this country and are shot if trying to leave Cuba where they have free healthcare. Education and government jobs for all. $30 a month.
Some jobs allow a person a lot of flexibility in how they accomplish the tasks involved. I really do not care how much another person works. Some people have jobs and or are smart enough to get the job done in a highly efficient manner. I dont think working longer is a measure of a mans character or manliness. Not all jobs are akin to working on a cattle ranch where you chew tobacco and drink coffee at sunrse and sleep with your cowboy hat on your face under the large Texas moonlight.
and now we have machines and electricity that allows us to accomplish what they did in a full day, in less than an hour. Does that make them better than us because they worked harder? Or are we better because we work smarter?
Exactly a farmer today can harvest the same amount of crops in an hour that it took farmers more than a day to harvest 40-50 years ago much less when the nation was founded. This has nothing to do with how hard today's farmers worked compared to then, it is about the advances in technology. The American work force is vastly different from when the nation was founded and there have been vast technological advances. I understand what Hook is getting at with this post. I think it would work in some fields but not in others. My company, although it still focuses on the 40 hours, has the option for a non-traditional schedule. We call it 9-80 scheduling, an employee gets their 80 hrs in 9 days instead of 10. You work 9 hours M-Th and then 8 every other Fri with the alternating Fri being a day off. So you are getting an extra 26 days a year away from work. I took advantage because I like the additional day away from work.
