Sharpening NAP Hellrazors...?

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  1. WesternMdHardwoods

    WesternMdHardwoods Weekend Warrior

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    I just ordered a new pack of Hellrazors and out of the pack these things need sharpened? I was a bit surprised since I always heard that all NAP products are scary sharp?

    Anyhow I figure I need to get something to sharpen them anyhow. I have a cheap broadhead sharpener that would probably work but I am curious if the G5 Stone is the better way to go? Also would a regular old Arkansas Homing Stone do just as well if I rig something to hold the angle?

    Any insight appreciated in how to properly sharpen this broadhead?

    Thanks
     
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    I just bought 2 packs but have not opened mine yet. You have me wondering about mine now. I'll have to check them when I get home this evening.
     
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    WesternMdHardwoods Weekend Warrior

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    Well what were your findings bud?
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Gri22ly showed me how to sharpen my knife with a diamond stone. Now I also use the stone to sharpen my fixed blade broadheads. The stone works great and does not take much effort.




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    Mine were good and sharp. They were sharper out of the box than the G5 Montec CS that I use to shoot. I have been wanting to try the Hellrazors and increasing my tip weight to 125 gave me a good excuse to go buy some.
     
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    Hmmmm who knows? Thanks for checking!
     
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    WesternMdHardwoods Weekend Warrior

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    Did you rig anything up to get the exact angle everytime?
     
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    Are you sure there not the practice tips ?
     
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    Nope, just estimated it and repeated the same stroke. It worked just fine.
     
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    What angle are you talking about? You lay them flat on a stone and pull them backwards.
     
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    I wasnt sure if thats all there was to them or not? I seen where G5 made there stone and I thought there was some kind of "dip" in the stone?

    Hoosier... they are not the practice heads, but thats a good thought!
     
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    Keep in mind the thickness of the blade and the angle that it was sharpened on, they will never feel as sharp as replaceable blades.

    Years ago there was a Co. (True Angle) that made ceramic sharpening stones for broadheads that also made a board with 2 files screwed to it for changing the angle of the cutting edge on a Snuffer. They were pricey, but I still kick myself in the butt for not picking a set up back then.
     
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    I was just wondering if they had packaged them wrong , only reason i mentioned it was because i had myself got practice tips from from G5 in the regular Montec packages , i guess it was a slip up in the packageing department and could as well happened to you , i have never seen a Hellrazor that wasnt Razor Sharp out of the package let alone all of them.
     
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    I am going nuts trying to sharpen these damn things! I have spent atleast 2 solid hours on one head! I can get it sharp but not near enough to my liking?

    I have tried everything from two seperate arkansas stones, numerous diamond stones and have went through my whole lansky sharpening kit trying to get a good edge on these things. If they didnt fly so good and cost me so much i would have given up long ago!

    I even went as far as going to the local sports shop earlier to make sure I didnt have practice heads, and after looking at a pack of them I for sure do not have practice heads.

    I dont get it, I have never heard a bad remark about NAP's sharpness but yet I get a pack that wont cut didly squat?
    I dont know if I am expecting too much or what, but I feel I should atleast be able to shave the hair on my arms...Am I correct?

    I guess tommorow the last resort is going to be taking a solid steel file and completely cutting a new edge on them. Wish me Luck!
     
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    Wow! That is unheard of from my experience with these heads. Most of my buddies shoot the HellRazors and/or the Montecs and we all sharpen then the same way. We all use the diamond sharpener that virginiashadow posted above. Last year I even sharpened mine while driving to my hunting grounds (probably NOT recommended!!) as it is so easy. Based on knowledge I gained when I worked in a cutlery store I actually just lay the heads flat on the blades and do small circles....maybe 5-6 on each of the 3 sides of the BHs. These heads are made to just sharpen them by laying them flat on the blades as it is the "correct" angle for sharpening.

    I would suggest if you are still having problems getting them sharpened to your standards contact NAP. They have great customer service.

    Mike
     
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    you mean this?

    http://www.kustomkingarchery.com/ST-SNUFFER-TAMER-KIT/productinfo/3704/
     
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    I have that exact kit laying around somewhere from my days when I shot Zwickey 2-blades. Works great!

    As for the HellRazors, I'm not sure what your requirement is for sharpness but I've never had a problem w/mine. Out of the box they're more than sufficient for hunting, and a few strokes on a diamond stone after practice and they're good as new again.
     
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    Justin will ur hellrazors out of the package shave the hair on your arms? Thanks
     
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    If anyone is wondering I was FINALLY able to get a decent edge on the heads. It took a old mill file to cut the edge rougher and then I smoothed it out with a series of diamond stones and finished with a polishing stone.

    There not exactly shaving hairs but they are cutting them, so it will have to work!
     

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