Actually, marriage is really a government matter. Even if you have a religious ceremony, the officiant has to sign the marriage certificate and file it with the county clerk or similar government officer. In Italy, religious ceremonies are not recognized as official. You can have a religious ceremony if you wish but your marriage isn't valid unless you have a civil ceremony. Likewise, for example, in Japan and Korea, you can have a ceremony or not, as you wish. But in order to be married, you must go to the government office and sign the registry as husband and wife.
Trick question for all the atheist or agnostic folks to pile on the Christians on this board. To answer this would be to open an extended debate about the chicken or the egg. No winners, just participants.
We will probably never know when the practice of male-female pair bonding started. But the story of Adam and Eve in the Bible illustrates the fact that it was already occurring. I think we are surely aware, that marriage has been occurring in many cultures which had no knowledge of the Bible for a very long time. In the Shinto creation myth, two deities, izanagi no mikoto and izanami no mikoto threw a spear into the ocean which created an island. They then went to the island and lived as husband and wife and created more islands. I guarantee you that you will not find this story in the Bible.
So the whitehouse being lit up like a rainbow in the gay parade or the LGBT community dancing on the steps of the SC isn't shoving it down my throat?
Just like your baker doesn't have to bake a cake for a gay wedding, and can still keep his business, without fear. Right.
Evidently anyone who does not agree and support gay marriage is discriminating against the gay community. That mind set bugs me.
Marriage isn't a "right". It's a rite. The government, federal or state, should have no part in it. Civil unions, on the other hand...I don't really know anyone who would refuse two consenting adults living in a committed domestic partnership the rights of next-of-kin, hospital visits, inheritance, etc.
I see both sides, if someone is against it for religious reasons they should be allowed to practice it in life, if someone is for it based on their beliefs they should be allowed to as well. It is only wrong if you try to force your beliefs on another. That being said I do not want to watch a hetro or a homo couple display their sexuality in public.
That's your belief and absolutely it can be debated as anything other than a good thing. As can anyone else's beliefs, the fact that you're arrogant enough not play by the same rules both ways is incredible.
It's not about "telling someone they don't have the right to marry because they're gay and are a sinner" It's about this crap being shoved in my face. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-lit-pride-colors-celebrate-sex-marriage/story?id=32063610
The colors on the outside of the White House are a result or the color inside the White House. He can't get us out of war, pass a budget, or solve poverty but We'll all be damned if he doesn't pass gay marriage. Kids go to sleep hungry in our nation and we waste our time making sure no ones feelings are hurt. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Better lube up, they aren't done shoving it yet......if you think this is stoping at a marriage licenses your nuts. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/opinions/kohn-equality-fight/index.html
I actually told my wife the other day that not only was I happy with the ruling, but the byproduct would hopefully be less of this stuff being constantly shoved in my face as well. So it is a win win. As for a cake shop not wanting to bake goods for a gay couple, I think that should be their right. We need less government regulation and intervention in the business world as well as the marriage world. More individual freedoms=good.
And in regards to the cake stuff, it's the same people that made that a problem and threatened business owners that are dancing on the steps of the SCOTUS and saying gay men don't make as much as straight men and it continues from there. You actually believe that the squeaky wheel just got the grease and now it's done? Come on brother you know better than that.
What bothers me about all the "they are not done yet" or "they are going to sue if someone doesn't cater to them" talk is that, yes, there will probably be lawsuits filed from irrational, illogical, attention craving gay couples. And yes, those stories will get attention from both sides. Gay couples are just like any other humans, there are bad, annoying gay couples, and there are normal, rational gay couples who just want to live there lives like the rest of us. Are we supposed to punish the normal, rational gay couples who don't care about suing over everything and getting media attention all the time because of the vocal minority? No, that is not how this country works. Or at least it is not how is should work. I have no idea why people cannot think rationally on this issue. It boggles my mind.
So if my religion or beliefs on what marriage is does not align with anothers agenda it is discrimination? Seems like intolerance on the other side. Seems shallow to think that anyone who doesn't agree is wrong. Why does one feeling to be gay trump ones feelings about religious beliefs?
