if you wash scentblocker suits in fresh earth detergant does in activate the carbon or does it only activate in the dryer so you just use oderless sheets? last season i used fresh earth detergent and had great results but this sesaon i switched to oderless (Scent A Way) and seems like not working so well? so any thoughts on the detergent activating the carbon would be very helpful!!
it takes 1600deg F to activate carbon. The suits never worked from Day one. It's been settled in court already. The same technology used by the US military issues suits in hermetically sealed bags for one time use because they saturate with smell within hours of opening the bag and cannot absorb any more. At that point they dispose of them because reactivation at 1600 deg would burn the material up into to ash and charcoal! Sorry you got sucked into this marketing, but nothing you or anyone else can do will ever reactivate this carbon. It's like a sponge that has absorbed as much water as it can, unfortunately you cannot wring it out to start over. That suits carbon content was already full or what ever it could absorb hours after manufacturing and certainly while sitting on the store shelf. I have a full technical description of this if your interested. They were sued and lost big time for the way they presented this. Even the "famous hunting stars" were pulled into court and admitted that the suits never helped them, but that they were getting paid to promote the sales.
The lawsuit you mention in your post wasn't solely surrounding the regeneration of the carbon, but rather the claims that the suits adsorbed 100% of your human odor. That was the primary basis of the lawsuit - the claim that their garments "eliminated 100%" of human odor. Furthermore, the lawsuit was against Scent-Lok, not ScentBlocker. They are two different companies with two different technologies. Additionally, that lawsuit was later overturned earlier this year. But of course the Internet crowd who loves to kick people when they're down certainly didn't create any 20 page threads about that. http://www.scentlok.com/scent-lok-news/scent-lok-breaking-new As for the original post - you should not wash any activated carbon clothing in detergent that has earth scent, nor should you use any earth scented (or any scented) sprays. The purpose of these garments is to adsorb all orders that come in contact with them - both from your body as well as anything you spray on them. So when washing the clothing you should be sure to use non-scented detergent (I personally use the Scent Shield products) and spray down with non-scented odor eliminator (again, I just Scent Shield). Activated carbon apparel is not the end-all-be-all of scent control. It's merely one piece of a much bigger picture. When used properly, in conjunction with additional scent control measures including showers, sprays, etc I believe it can help reduce your scent. And any advantage I can get is one I'm going to take.
Scent blocker got the idea from the military chemical suites which are designed to allow soldiers to operate in biological chemical warfare. I personally think they are a "total" waste of money. They have already been proven not to work any better than just using a good scent free laundry and body soap. Brother if I were you I wouldn't worry to much about it, just get yourself some scent free detergent and body soap and find a good cover scent that you like. I shot my biggest deer while wearing old spice and he was within 15 yards of me and never lifted his nose.
No need for quotes. I saw some stuff this weekend while shopping, had a scratch and sniff sticker that you covered with it's material. You could not smell it. That being said, you couldn't smell it through the tag side either.
thanks Justin that summed it up good for me..i still use the wind for my primary always just seems this year has been a bit tougher with the change to non sinted detergeant and sprays..but im going to get scent shield and give that a run and see if it helps out. what do you think about the white lightning or the Titanium spray? or do you just go with scent shield Orig. ?
yeah me and my buddy saw that scratch and sniff thing iin the stores... it was unreal how you couldnt smell that it was like as strong as pinsol.
Justin's correct, it was overturned earlier this year. But if you ask me the only evidence I need is being busted a few times in past years on shooter bucks, and then buying scentblocker camo two years ago and I haven't had a deer bust me since. Any hunter knows they shouldn't knock something until they try it for themselves. I understand it's expensive but if you ask me, being out on 4-6 (morning & afternoon) hunts a week and having deer regularly within 10-20 yards and even downwind and never being busted since I bought the stuff is enough evidence for me. I don't need a court decision to tell me what works and what doesn't. It's great stuff. But to each his own and good luck to everybody.
I'm not gonna dive into this and seem as though I have some personal vendetta against them,I don't. After all Marketing is the most powerful business on earth, Look who is running America now! However if you really look at what the "overturned" decision is, ..... well it was not really overturned, and all the testimony was sealed and not available for the public to view after the " overturned" part of the settlement. They originally lost, then had an appeal which they won in a way for being able to continue selling the product, but they lost because the advertising had to be changed significantly, and the the settlement was made private and never disclosed. You don't pay a settlement when you win! They also got spanked by their own "hunting celebrities" in the trial who had to admit it was never used because it worked, it was only used because they were paid. Carry on with the topic, I'll sit back and read the amazing stories of success with this it is very amusing!
Ok , i'll join ya , you go get the snacks and i'll grab the beer......Miller Lite allright with you ?..........lol
I am one that has never bought into the activated carbon stuff. I'm a details person and did my own research on it a while back and found what the lawsuit and other people found. You simply can not regenerate it in a normal household dryer. On top of that I have to wonder about whether or not the new clothing hanging on the racks at your Cabela's are already half saturated in scents to begin with since they're not sealed in bags or anything. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe activated carbon will absorb any type of scent, not just the human/bio kind. With that being said, its like Justin already stated. If it gives you confidence, use it.
iunno bout that last night we had a doe downwind of us at 130yards. we both had scentlok timberfleece 360 suits on and both wash them with scentkiller soap. we fawn bleeted and she came straight from downwind of us to our tree and then walked to 10 yards and ya need to say no more. 3yr old doe too.so i do believe the carbon suits work!!
I've had plenty of deer come in from down wind of me walk directly under my stand and two yearlings playing under my stand with me wearing blue jeans and a flannel shirt evens , in my 26 years of bow hunting i see no need in the over priced carbon suits ......just saying , i havent wore just jeans and a flannel shirt hunting in years but with my treestand camo i have not seen a increase in my success otherwise , its still the same as i kill deer every year , its all how you play the game and one can do it inexpensivly without all the fancy carbon suits thats for sure , thats my oppinion .
Yeah but have you worn it? they are the best (confertable) relaxing hunting cloth on the market. We (TribalOutdoors.com) are trying to get Avery (NaturalGear) to produce something equal, but they too claim it's Bull%^*. What do you do?
Hoosier, we are gonna run out of miller light, and chocolate cake here. The discussion has gone from honestly complicated to simply ridiculous now. First it was scent control, now that is lost it's been reduced to comfort. If comfort and quality are the question I have no argument. However I'll wear polar fleece anytime I want comfort and quiet. The Biggest problem with Heavy Polar fleece when combined with the Millennium M-100 is being able to stay awake! I've had exactly one hunter with this scent control outfit in 18 years now. However we have been taking a minimum of 125 head of big game a year. Some years with culling 250-500 head. Thats a lot of game without the magic. I have had many species of big game walk almost on top of me in a ground blind made of brush without any of the "magic sprays" or carbon clothing. By this measure I should be believing that the 100% cotton has amazing scent control property. Yet I have been busted at 100 yards by plenty of species as well with the same clothing, even on the same day! The difference here is the resolution of game encounters. We stalk 100 plus animals a year within 50-75 yards, and stand hunt another equal amount with them being 5-30 meters from us. Only one guy wore the carbon outfit, we had game all around us. He even said at the camp later he was glad he brought it because we were able to get so close. Then my Partner asked me in Afrikaans what was I wearing? I said what you see on me now. We laughed and about that same time one of the other hunters asked where I was when we were so close. The hunter answered we were in the blind together. So now how much use and confidence did he have in this outfit? I was sitting 2 feet from him in the same blind! I gotta go get some more snacks Hoosier this is gonna be a long thread!
First off, how can you possibly have me against someone. That's absurd! Second, settlements get paid by the would-be-winner all the time, because it's cheaper. I'll reference 80% of medical malpractice suits. Thirdly, I think the carbon stuff is not necessary. Even last week I had a doe 5 yards under my stand, and approached me from downwind. She didn't even look in my direction. Fourth!, I'd rather spend my money on something that makes a difference. I bought a pair of $140 cold gear upper/bottoms this week. I said I'd never pay that much, but lately I've been getting cold. I said, if it didn't work I'd take it back. That product, unlike carbon technology, really works. I don't think I've ever been more comfortable, and feel it was $140 well spent. $600 on a jacket and pair of pants... nah.
